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zorg1000 said:
oniyide said:
zorg1000 said:
oniyide said:
zorg1000 said:
Screamapillar said:
I think one thing is certain, though. Sonic Lost World is NOT a system seller, in any of the three major regions. At least not in it's debut week.


I dont know why anybody thought it would be, the 4 Sonic games on Wii each had debuts of 40-80k when u align the launches of each major region and each had lifetime sales of 1-2.5 million. Lost World appears to have a debut week of 50k+ when adding USA numbers so its tracking right there with the Wii installments.

When Iwata said system seller I dont think he meant tons of people are going to rush to buy a Wii U right when this game releases or that It will have huge first week sales. Instead I believe he meant during the holidays and early next year this game will be one of the key titles that pushes people to buying a Wii U. So maybe Sonic or Mario or Donkey Kong or Wii Party or Wind Waker or Skylanders or Just Dance or Wii Fit or Mario & Sonic Olympics is going to push significant amount of hardware alone  but combined they can make Wii U a worthwhile purchase.


Then he was still wrong as that is the definition of a system seller, a game that can just move consoles.


no a system seller doesnt have to mean huge front loaded sales, a game with an extremely high attach ratio and long legs can be considered a system seller


no a system seller is just that, it sells systems. Sonic aint it. attach ratio doesnt mean much when the system is selling like crap, that means NOTHING is moving th system. I dont even think Sonic meets any of the criteria for "system seller" that you put up


ya i dont believe Sonic fits that criteria either, my last post is just saying a system seller doesnt have to push a ton of consoles in its debut week. If a game only causes a small boost but the baseline sales increase from that point on then it is still a system seller.

yeah thats fair kind of like GTA5, it sold alot but it did increase sales (at least for PS3) alot put it above 3ds that week at least, has legs so in that regard that would be a system seller. Im just struggling to think why anyone thought Sonic would move anything considering he hasnt since Genesis days and maybe Dreamcast