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oni-link said:
eyeofcore said:
fatslob-:O said:
eyeofcore said:
oni-link said:
at this point I think no real Nintendo fan will care what specs the Wii U has!!! I for one don't care if it has the specs of a 15 year old Sega Dreamcast (I'm so tired of the BS about specs taking a rumor as fact) as long as it produces games as beautiful as SM3DW, X, Rayman Legends, Bayo2 etc!!! People shouldn't give a shit about which console has the biggest D!ck as long as it satisfies their needs no? Besides PC outshines any of the "big" 3's consoles anyday...so does Steam Machines!!!


I agree with you, I am here just refuting the obvious rumor and fallacy...

Fatslob forces a rumor as a fact yet the die shot, mm^2 available for GPU and other things say otherwise... He can't handle it.

Specs don't matter, Wii ruled for several years straight stomping Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 in sales and software sales and DS proved PSP and 3DS proved Vita are no match to the attractive design and games, for three years in a row, weakest console won in sales and software sales.

Hopefully the Wii U will continue the trend.

Die shots don't matter when a console is taking less than 35 watts. Deal with it! 

This rumor is partly backed up by the fact that it takes less than 35 watts. Deal with it once again. 

BTW what fallacy is there when you yourself can't back up your point with sources ? (Uh oh it really sounds like your reaching for that damage control LOL.)


Die Shot matters and it is proof and you negate it... It is 35 watts highest...

I quote myself...

"Hmmm... Care to tell me something that I did not knew? So you deny that process/litography quality can not be improved or that a higher quality silicon can be used?

Wow... Your forceful premise and guesses are constant, I follow AMD and I follow their stock yet it is not my primariy focus compared to finding a job in this recession. Recent leaks point out that Kaveri/Steamroller will have lower floating yet higher interger performance intentionally so floating points calculations/processing will be offloaded to GPU... This will make worser performance in older games :/

So Radeon HD 6570M is 104mm^2 so they can squeeze it under 100.71mm^2, die size of 93.6mm^2. Thanks for the information.

Chipworks guy said that Latte's GPU is heavily customized and that he could not tell what kind of AMD's GPU is so it is supposedly extremely customized design, by the way. You crushed your theory and theory of that guy that it is 160-200 shaders LMAO."

"Nope... It is 30 watts, at worse it is 35 watts sometimes and the power supply is 75 watts with 90% efficiency so it can handle 67.5 watts at max and degradation of the power supply unit is ignorable if not stressed fully to reduce its life span.

How can we be certain that Nintendo did not locked resources? Just in case if the system/OS is unstable...

You need to deal with this... You are looking at PC GPU's not mobile/embedded ones at all also does that TDP include GDDR3/GDDR5 memory into TDP/power consumption plus the board its self? If so then remove GDDR3(I know that 1GB 65nm one uses 20watts) or if is GDDR5(2GB 46nm is 7.5-8 watts so 512MB is 1.75-2 watts) then that the board its self could take a couple of more watts. So look at Radeon HD 6570M... 30 watt rated TDP, if 1GB of GDDR3 45nm then lets remove that thus power consumption goes down to 16 watts then lower the clocks from 600 to 550 thus power consumption goes down to 13.6 then we remove the board that could use 1-2 watts and it is 11.6-12.6 then we add like 2-3 watts that 32mb eDRAM uses and we are around 12.6-15.6.

I might be wrong, you may say I am FOS yet I might be right or yet we both don't know s*** when comes to what is used in TDP calculation of GPU since GDDR3/GDDR5 consume noticeable amount of watts and can add to heat of the GPU."

Only person doing damage control is you, here, right now, this instance, pronto! You are FOS.


Eyeforce it doesn't matter the fact that he took bgassasin's word/rumor (which is obviously flawed hence shinen's rebuttal response) as fact shows it's a pointless endeavor debating with him!!!  Looking at how current ports like SC:BL, AC:IV, Trine2, NFS:MW, along with statements from Havokhttp://thewiiu.com/topic/3685-havok-talks-engine-use-on-wii-u-says-youll-see-things-you-wont-see-elsewhere/, Frozenbyte http://www.nowgamer.com/news/1999044/wii_u_is_a_truly_powerful_console_more_powerful_than_360_and_ps3_trine_2_dev.html, Unity http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Wii-U-GPGPU-Squashes-Xbox-360-PS3-Capable-DirectX-11-Equivalent-Graphics-47126.html and now recently Shin'en regarding the rumor https://twitter.com/ShinenGames.  Again  I am tired of all this made up shit (which is obviously defamation tactics used by anti-Nintendo fanboys) about the Wii U specs.  They can say it is as powerful as the N64 (which Ninjablade said once) for all I care...but I don't care as long as I am playing games that look this good:

I'm not on a quest to shit on the WII U. That's the ps360 gamers job to do it. (Why don't you read my other posts in this before you start assuming I have some hidden agenda.) 

If your willing to take eyeofcores delusion over anandtechs serious analysis go for it.