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IsawYoshi on 06 November 2013
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BMaker11 said:
IsawYoshi said:
BMaker11 said:

It's not really fair to say "it went from 150 to 100" and look at that as a bad thing. The PS2 was a little over 100M when the PS3 came out....and then kept on selling. It was on the market for 13 years. To compare 13 years to 7 years and then say since the console that has been on sale for 6 years less time sold less units, it "went down" is ignorant. Check the numbers again in 2019/2020. That's like looking at the iPhon 5s and say "it has sold less than the iPhone 4s, so it's not as successful as its predecessor" while ignoring the fact the 5s hasn't been out anywhere near as long as the 4s

You didn't read everything I said. I'm not saying PS3 was a failure. But it sold less than PS2, quite a lot actually, AND it let the other console developers get up. PS2 strangeled Xbox and Nintendo, PS3 gave them oxygen. I doubt Sony think of the PS3 as a sucsess in the same way they look at PS2, and, once again, Nintendo were the cear winner of the gen. No matter sales of consoles or not, people considered them done, and they came back and reclaimed the throne, forcing Sony and Microsoft to start with motion controlls as well. 

No, I read everything, and understood it perfectly. Nowhere did you say the PS3 was a failure, but because it "went down" to a possible 100M, while Nintendo and Microsoft jumped considerably, you can't say Sony "won" because they let the competition catch up and didn't sell as much as last gen. Well, how many PS2s/GCs/XBs were sold? 190M? How many consoles have sold this gen? 260M? So is it really so much as "they let the competition catch up" or is it "the gaming market has expanded"? I'm sure the latter is a more legitimate answer since total home console sales have grown by almost 40%.

And like I said, regarding comparisons to the PS2, the PS2 was on the market for 13 years. The PS3 has been on the market for 7 years. You can't ignore the fact that the PS2 was available for almost double the time the PS3 has been, and then use that to knock the PS3 for "selling less". Otherwise the, like in the analogy, the iPhone 5s just hasn't done as well as the iPhone 4s (even though the 4s has been out for 2 years and the 5s has been out for 2 months)

You said yourself that the PS2 was a little over a 100 millions when the PS3 launched. First of all, the PS3 is (probably) not going to be close to that at PS4 launch, secondly, the PS3 launch was a gigantic failure, naturally leading to more people buying PS2 over a PS3 because of the price. It doesn't seem like that will be the case for PS4, which will hurt PS3 sales in comparison to PS2 sales. 

 

You stated that the market expanded. So let's look at that. PS2's gen: 190m. PS3's gen: 260m. PS2's sold at launch of PS3: 100m. PS3's sold at launch of PS4: 80m.

 

The gen as a whole was more successful, but Sony less. Doesn't really prove your point. Why didn't Sony expand? The PS3 CLEARLY let the others catch up.