Final-Fan said:
masschamber said:
Let's not forget that during Clinton's administration a recession started,
Clinton had an illegal war in Bosnia, one that killed innocent people and disposed a dictator, and didn't even have approval of congress but instead circumvented it by using US nato forces to enter into a non-nato nation,
Clinton also repeated bombed the snot out of Iraq under the pretense of the presence of weapons of mass destruction, so basically the current Iraq war is little more than extension of his bombing runs
The current unemployment rate is the same as the average under Clinton,
Bush admin is doing nothing about Darfur, guess what Clinton did about Rawanda? oh right nothing.
Clinton fell backward into the internet boom so basically the economy was pure luck at the time, not that the president has any control over the economy anyway, I'll give you a hint at who actually is (the person sitting reading this post)
Clinton allowed numerous Oil and Telecommunication mergers under his administration, but at least he tried to protect us from big bad microsoft.
there are more crumby thing about Clinton but they are too many to enumerate, the point is Clinton sucks just as much as Bush, the only difference is Celebrities and left wing activists didn't care about his failings,
and for the record if you look at Presidents Nixon was probably one of the best but people hate him for really no reason except the audacity to spy on the democrats and his "enemies list" which all indications point to that he didn't even no about it.
1. Nixon opened relations with China, really weakening the Soviet's position in the cold war, which helped to enforce detente
2.Hanoi would have surrendered eventually under his tactics, well I guess commy sympathizers wouldn't like either of those
3. Worthwhile and actually effective environmental acts like Superfund were under Nixon, but Environmentalists like things that control peoples lives not actually get things done
4. The actual enforcement of Brown v Board was under Nixon,
5. Nixon actually proposed enacting a law forcing all employers to provide health care insurance and make a sliding scale government provided health care insurance, what made this different is that the state didn't control all health care, but it still created a forum in which health care |
Nixon did a lot of really great things as president which are overshadowed by his paranoia-fueled abuses of power.
Bush's presidency has been marked by one failure after another and the only things his administration has been really good at are abusing power, flaunting laws up to and including the U.S. Constitution, dodging blame, and cutting taxes.
Frankly I'd prefer Nixon, by a mile. But to claim that he somehow didn't know about all the crap that was going on, much of it as a direct result of his orders ... well, let's just say your grasp of American history is shaky at best. |
I said Nixon wasn't aware of his enemy list, and to say my knowledge of american history is shakey is plain is foolish, I know history and I know it well and Nixon did far more good than his enemies' list and water gate could ever account for,
and to say Bush is without any accomplishments shows that your knowledge of American history isn't perfect, The War in Afganistan destroyed the taliban, but it is overshadowed by the secritarian violence in Iraq; However, the war in Iraq did expose the high levels of curruption in the U.N. Oil for food program, this really should have raised question about the UNs lack of resolve of enforcing their own resolutions against Hussien and his notorius indifference to the weapons inspectors, has been involved with expansion of NATO, numerous efforts to combat identity theft and piracy, he has accomplishments but they are downplayed and overshadowed
Is he a good president? no, is he the worst? no, he isn't that either
