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Shadow1980 said:
Arius Dion said:
The massive decline from gen to gen until the Wii shows Nintendo's console business in dire straits up until the Wii. Wii may have been 'made fun of on forums' and the like but its real world performance speaks for itself. Gamecube's performance speaks for itself as well.

Sales spikes is not as important as sustained sales. With 22m WW sold its obvious WW along with DD and Sunshine did not do their job.

You can play semantics all you want. But if Gamecube wasn't such a collasal failure, Iwata would not have stated it as one and Nintendo would not have changed their entire business strategy the following gen.

But I guess in your world 22m WW is just dandy. As is 300k in a quarter for Wii U? Gimme a break.


Mind checking the attitude at the door?

I never said the GC was a huge success. It was Nintendo's lowest-selling home console. What I did say was that calling it an abject failure is an exaggeration. It was profitable for one, so while Nintendo wasn't making as much money off of it as their older systems, they weren't losing money either. It also sold almost as much software as the N64, so in that department Nintendo was holding steady. The GC might not have performed well — and that's mainly attributable to the PS2 being an all-consuming black hole; the GC could never hope to compete with it, especially when it's having to fight with Xbox over the last remaining scraps  — but it certainly was no Jaguar or 3DO.

Also, does the Xbox selling 2 million more units than the GC really matter when it was never profitable for MS while the GC was profitable from day one? The only reason MS weathered the loss was because, well, they're Microsoft, and gaming was not a huge chunk of business.

Part of communication is more than words. I didn't mean to come across with attitude. More playful. I'll be more mindful in the future.

Do we know for sure if GC or GBA was to thank for their profits at that point? Profit is good, more profit is better.

Xbox has been a faucet of red. All I'm pointing out is that a new kid on the block outsold an og. Nintendo was experience decline after decline for a decade (or more) GC was a failure, not as bad as VB, but a failure nonethelss. you disagree?



Bet between Slimbeast and Arius Dion about Wii sales 2009:


If the Wii sells less than 20 million in 2009 (as defined by VGC sales between week ending 3d Jan 2009 to week ending 4th Jan 2010) Slimebeast wins and get to control Arius Dion's sig for 1 month.

If the Wii sells more than 20 million in 2009 (as defined above) Arius Dion wins and gets to control Slimebeast's sig for 1 month.