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kupomogli said:
Kasz216 said:
pokoko said:



I'm curious, have you played the games that Final Fantasy was the spirtual successor to?

 

For me, Final Fantasy Tactics story never really won me over because it was more or less just trying to convert over the Tactics Ogre/Ogre Battle world in Final Fantasy form.

To me, it never matched the storytelling power that was found in Tactics Ogre: LUCT.

I wouldn't say Final Fantasy Tactics is Ogre Battle in Final Fantasy form, because there's really nothing to say what Final Fantasy actually is.  It's just with Yasumi Matsuno doing the writing, he decided to push the story of a nation in conflict like many of his games.  It's not the first Final Fantasy to have that style of story though.  Final Fantasy 2 and 6 have the same basic premise in story telling, exccept both games have the empire as the dominant force against everyone else where as Final Fantasy Tactics has two main forces against each other while you and others are against them and each other.

*edit*

Every Final Fantasy has an enemy who has control over a single opposing force, but the two above are the ones that are more like Final Fantasy Tactics than the others and also came out prior to Final Fantasy Tactics.


i'd say it's similarties lie far more then just in that it involves nations however.

 

The Church of Glabados is way too similar to the Holy Lodis order for example.


Or the Zodiac Stones.   The Saint Ajora version of the story, is basically exactly the same as the Ogre Battle version.

They both thought their was 12, but there was actually 13.

The villians goal in FFT is to ressurect Ultima so they can come and go as they please from the underworld and take over the world.  Ultima gets ressurected but if defeated before she unleashes her true power.

The villians goal in Ogre Battle is to ressurect Diablo (or in other games, various others) who will all the gate to the underworld to be open.  Allowing the ogres to come and go as they please and take over the world.  They zenobian heroes have to beat Diablo before he awakens his full power.

The only real difference is that the gem they are assosiated with is changed.

 

Argus and Delita mostly just seem like Lawful and Chaos Vice.  Split to get rid of the complaints most people had about vice, who couldn't realize that basically Vice was operating his self identity from what he wasn't, and not from what he was... which is fairly common place in politics.

 

The story of FF Tactics mostly seems like a reworking of one of the many untold Ogre Batle episodes.

 


The Zodiac Braves and Ajora/ultima, are no doubt just the Zodiac Disciples and Diablo.  I could go on and on with the paralels between specific character themes and in general some characters who legitalimly may be crossovers given different endings... but I think i've already made a fairly decent point as far as it just being "Similar storytelling".