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Zero999 said:
Michael-5 said:

If it's titled Final Fantasy: Side Story in Japan, it's kinda a side story.

But believe what you like. Personally I consider FF:T4HoL a Prequel to Braverly Default and not a Final Fantasy main series game, but a Bravery Default Main series game. Like you said it's the content that matters and if you look at the gameplay, and artwork, FF: T4HoL is a Braverly Default series game, despite saying Final Fantasy in the name. I think what these two games were, were an attempt to see if a Final Fantasy-like game would sell on handhelds as well as Dragon Quest IX did, or as well as console FF's did. It didn't, but it still made a profit, so thus we have the Braverly Default series.

Plus like you said, unless I prove that all main series FF games are connected, then there is no main FF series, I believe I proved that.

P.S. You just contradicted yourself. You said that all Zelda's are part of the main series because the gameplay is similar. Now, not only are you saying there is no main series Zelda, you're also saying FF games with very different gameplay mechanics, like Crystal Chronicles and Tactics, are main series......

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Also for Zelda, there is a main series despite having 3 branching story-lines. I mean do you consider that Tingle DS game a main series Zelda game? It's just everything Zelda falls into this series except for a couple obvious spin-offs.

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Also, the thread is about Braverly Default being FF3's spiritual successor, that's already FFVIII, it takes place in the same world after FFIII and share a lot of gameplay mechanics.

1. bolded: as I said, it can be called whatever they want. for it to be a side story, there needs to be a main story, wich there isn't.

2. bolded2: you proved that SOME numbered ff connect to SOME others, making then a bunch of separete stories with no main series.

bolded3: I clearly said that THERE IS NO MAIN SERIES IN FINAL FANTASY. BUT IF YOU THINK THERE IS, YOU ARE FORCED TO CONSIDER THE LIKES OF TACTICS AND CRYSTAL CHRONICLES AS MAIN SERIES.

zelda games share a connected story and gameplay style. numbered final fantasies don't  follow a chronological order and gameplay varies too much between games = nothing defining a main series. final fantasy is a franchise where the games happen in different universes and is not tied to a certain gameplay mechanic. this makes crystal chronicles, tactics and bravely default as much final fantasies as the numbered ones.

1. That's not true, there are very clear cut Main series Mario and Donkey Kong games, except for Donkey Kong Country 1-3, none of them have an over-arching story.

Fallout has a clear main seires (1-3 + New Vegas), and except for 1 character there are no connectiong between all, but the first 2 (which are directly related)

Main series Dragon Quest games don't have any related story, yet we still consider DQM and DQ Swords, a side game.

Plus what the developer calls it outweighs what you call it. Square Enix is calling it a side story, therefore it's a side story. It's literally called "Final Fantasy Side Story." You can't argue this, all you can argue is "Side story to what?" but that doesn't despute this game being a side story to something, which in tern implies that there is an internally designated main series.

2. I showed you that out of the 12 games I described 10 are connected with each other, and I never said the last 2 weren't connected. I'm not huge on FF so I might be wrong on this, but I believe the main theory is FFI, and IX take place on one planet, and the rest take place on another because at some point in the FF series space travel was possible (As referenced in many games, specifically IV, VI, VII, VIII, X, and XIII. Plus FFIII and FFVIII are believed to take place in the same place as FFIV and FFVI, just they take place after the big war in FF IV (Notice how all FF games are related to this big War of the Magi?).

So there, now I showed you how all main series FF games are related.

3.  You claim Zelda has a main series because it shares the same story line and gameplay, but FF doesn't because it doesn't have these features, but....you're wrong. There is an overarching story, and the gameplay in FF I is really not that different from the gameplay in FFIX.

This is why side games like FF Tactics and Crystal Chronicals are side games.

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Anyway in conclusion, if Zelda has a main series, FF has a main series for the exact same reasons. If you claim one has a main series, but the other does not, then you are ignoring facts, and just pushing your opinion. FF does have an over-arching story, it's just that most of the games aren't direct sequels/prequels of each other. However, just like Super Mario World 2, the numbered value doesn't indicate its order chronologically (Remember Yoshi's Island is a prequel to all Super Mario Bros. games).



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