Anybody else think Bravely Default is FF 3's spiritual sequel?

[Michael-5]

Zero999 said:

Michael-5 said:

How is Final Fantasy different from Zelda? FF II and FF IV are directly, FF IV and VI are directly related, which are also indirectly related to FFVII and FFX  (take place in the same place hundreds of years apart), FFI and IX are directly related, FF III and FFV are loosely related, FFI and FFIX are directly related, FFXIII is related to FFVII, and FFVII and FFX are indirectly related.

So from that we can see that FF 2,4,6,7,10, and 13 are related, FF 1 & 9 are too, and so are 3 & 8 (I don't know how 11, 12, 14 tie in though since they are newer and I don't know much about them). Now this is still 3 timelines, but before 3 years ago we didn't know how Phantom Hourglass, and Wind Waker were related to Zelda games, yet we still considered them main series right?

4 Heroes of light is not related to main series FF games, plus it has no numerical number, nor does it get the same epic budget as main series FF games, so we can conclude, it's a spin off.

Just to put a nail in this debate coffin, the Japanese name for this game is -  Hikari no 4 Sensi -Final Fantasy Gaiden - and do you know what Gaiden translates to? Side Story. Literally, it's called a Side Story in Japan, geez.

sc94597 said:

What? I've been playing Final Fantasy games since I was four years old and never heard of (nor seen) a connection between any of the numbered games which implies they're in the same universe. 

Squaresoft and Square Enix made every main series FF game tell its own story. None of the main series games are direct sequels or prequels to another, but they are all subtly related. I mean you'd have to really look for the connections, like Kain (FFIV) being reference as the son of Richard (FFII).

It's like Zelda, if you play ALttP, they reference the original Zelda, if you play OoT it references ALttP. The difference between Zelda and FF is that Majora's Mask would have been labeled OoT-2 if it were an FF game since they affect the same story arc directly.

bolded: no, those are 3 universes = no main series. and wind waker was always an obvious sequel to ocarina and you forgto the most important part: gameplay. a franchise's main series can be identified by either story or gameplay. since numbered final fantasies are not connected story wise and have no fixed gameplay, they don't constitute a main series.

bolded 2: I put a nail in this debate a  long time ago. the game can be called whatever they want, it's the content that matters. and the contents of the likes of crystal chronicles, tactics and four heroes makes them as "main series" as the numbered ones.

If it's titled Final Fantasy: Side Story in Japan, it's kinda a side story.

But believe what you like. Personally I consider FF:T4HoL a Prequel to Braverly Default and not a Final Fantasy main series game, but a Bravery Default Main series game. Like you said it's the content that matters and if you look at the gameplay, and artwork, FF: T4HoL is a Braverly Default series game, despite saying Final Fantasy in the name. I think what these two games were, were an attempt to see if a Final Fantasy-like game would sell on handhelds as well as Dragon Quest IX did, or as well as console FF's did. It didn't, but it still made a profit, so thus we have the Braverly Default series.

Plus like you said, unless I prove that all main series FF games are connected, then there is no main FF series, I believe I proved that.

P.S. You just contradicted yourself. You said that all Zelda's are part of the main series because the gameplay is similar. Now, not only are you saying there is no main series Zelda, you're also saying FF games with very different gameplay mechanics, like Crystal Chronicles and Tactics, are main series......

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Also for Zelda, there is a main series despite having 3 branching story-lines. I mean do you consider that Tingle DS game a main series Zelda game? It's just everything Zelda falls into this series except for a couple obvious spin-offs.

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Also, the thread is about Braverly Default being FF3's spiritual successor, that's already FFVIII, it takes place in the same world after FFIII and share a lot of gameplay mechanics.