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Seece said:
Zero999 said:

there's a small little known indie game called pokemon, as well as 2ds, zelda and holidays.

Pokemon isn't an indie game ... do you even know what an indie game is? lawl.

3DS aint doing 15m this holiday Q. That would up 100% YOY. Not even Nintendo expect that. Do you even look at their forecasts?

Actually, Pokemon is an indie game.  Most indie developers on the other hand aren't indie.  The term indie comes from independant.  When an "indie developer" like Klei Entertainment gets support from a third party, EA Partners, then they aren't independant.  They are dependant on the funding an independant organization is offering them.

The Pokemon Company on the other hand is owned by Nintendo, so being a part of Nintendo means that the Pokemon Company is Nintendo.  All funding comes from within the company, meaning that they're independant. 

Additionally.  Developers who receive crowd funding on Kickstarter aren't independant.  They're dependant as most of them require the funding they receive from Kickstarter backers.  Most would drop whatever project they're working on if they didn't get the backing for said project.

I will use the term from time to time because people know what you're talking about when you say indie, but I hate the term because indie isn't indie.  The people who came up with the term and made it popular are morons.