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happydolphin on 09 October 2013
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Scisca said:
happydolphin said:
The thing you're missing sight of is that holidays and mario go hand in hand, it's not one or the other. Proof is the cube went not too far during the holidays either. So what Mario's become via Mario Kart and NSMB's late success is something that goes hand in hand with the holidays. If the holidays never existed, maybe those games would never do so well, and maybe the holidays wouldn't affect Nintendo's success so much if those games didn't exist. So it's not one or the other, but a product of both factors working in tandem.

As for where the U will be while the twins get their marketting storm? It will be exactly where it always has been, as an alternative to the HD twins. People have and always will want Mario. They simply can't find that on the twins. That alone makes the U a commodity.

Why do you assume I'm missing it? I sure am not and you can read it in my posts. I'm just saying that Christmas will have a bigger impact than these games (as in - 75% of the boost due to Christmas, 25% of the boost due to games). - Do you think it's going to be other way round? If so - please argue why. - I know they both work together, but the Christmas boost is going to be pulling most of the load allowing these new games to sell big time, not the other way round. It was the same way round with Vita. ACIII:L was released last Christmas and it sold 750k, it is the third best selling game on Vita. On the other hand Killzone: Mercenary, which is a much better game, was released in September and sits at a humiliating 70k (though I hope NPD will correct this... cause it just can't be correct). I'm sure it would sell much more had it been release in the midst of a Christmas frenzy. Maybe there still is hope for this game and it'll start moving this November? It sure needs legs.

Yeah, it will be where it has always been - in a cold grave, cause it sure won't get any more shelf space and that is the problem. So far it isn't an alternative to anything. Vita is more of an alternative to 3DS than Wii U is to PS360 or PS4One. People always wanted Mario and still GCN happened. Nothing is guaranteed in this business, even though I'm certain that Wii U will start selling a bit better than GCN, I can't see it a runaway success and it will need something more than this 3D Mario to become relevant again. So I repeat - it needs Mario Kart to start selling better than GCN, thankfully it's gonna get it soon.

@bold. You're just saying that because of NSMBU's limited success so far. If you remember, the GCN also had double-dash.

@underlined. At dedicated retailers yes, you are right, but not at big retailers like Target, Walmart and Best Buy, where Nintendo always makes the most sales anyways.

As for Vita being more of an alternative, I think it's still much too early to tell. It's true that NSMB has had a bit of series fatigue, so Mario Kart will help the U make a "U turn" so to speak (forgive the pun(s)), that and 3D Mario, Smash and many other great games coming for it. I think your opinion here is extremely premature, and if the Wii is any indicator, recently there has been a hunger for Nintendo-made games, and I don't see why that would go away any time soon...

@italics. The best example I could give you is NSMB DS, which launched alongside a DS redesign and helped propel the redesign to the stars. Again a case of paired work. NSMB DS did not release during the holidays, but in May in US/JP. In Japan alone it sold 1m in its first week.