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theprof00 said:
Machiavellian said:
theprof00 said:
Machiavellian said:
theprof00 said:

I'm not going to read your post if you're not going to read the thread.

It matters not.  You have an opinion and I have mine, weather you read it or not I stated my case.

You're right. The only thing that matters is proving yourself as someone who argues against a pro-Sony view simply for the sake of it.

As in, my only argument is that you can't judge how well Sony is going to be able to support their advertised services simply because MS has a lot more potential capability due to various support structures. If you can't be bothered to read my points, and yet continue to argue against what I'm saying, (and while I give you leeway that you're not the biggest offender *looks at walsufnir*) comments with the intention of demonizing or undermining this pretty simple point doesn't come off as objectivity.

So yeah, it matters not, because I already knew the kind of people I was arguing against. I gain nothing from this argument, but maybe you can.

1I read every point you made and I countered it with my opinion.  It was you who stated you could not be bothered to read what I wrote, which is fine.  

2 I beieve you mistake me for someone who cares anything about being pro Sony or MS.  I am more about technology and how its used and what it does for me.  Your arguments are based on being pro Sony, my arugments are based on my knowledge of cloud base services and the advantages I see between Sony solution and MS.  There is a very clear advantage MS has in this space.

3 @Bolded:  Not sure what you are getting at.  Your point of view doesn't end with you just stating it.  Its not like your point of view is shared amoug everyone or is such a lock that no one would disagree.  I disagree with your point and provided my reason just like any debate on a topic.

4 I believe you think I am pro MS, I am pro no corporation.  I am the person who purchase every console, has a top of the line PC and have every handheld device.  I purchase based on my need/want not who the corporation is.  Hell, in my house, I have more Sony products than MS.  I have 2 PS3, 2 Vitas, one Sony Viao, One PSP, Still have my PS2, Traded in my PS. I have PS+ which I must say is a clear advantage to Sony for people who love games and when you have a Vita its even better.

Does this mean, I am a Sony lover, No.  I love no corporation but what I do like is a product that meets my needs.


1 You can't even read a post that's IN A POST you're posting. Bolded. "I'm not going to read your post if you're not going to read the thread."

2 Wrong. I'm arguing from a rationalist point of view. Something was said by Kowen that made no sense. I countered it, and have been attacked for it this whole time. THe stance? That you can't say Sony's service is bad just because MS' cloud service, which is of course being used for MUCH MORE than xb1, has more infrastructure.

3 It IS a lock. It's plain as day. An apple doesn't taste bad simply because an orange tastes great. If you can't understand this simple point you have no reason to be here. You have no room to disagree.

4 Funny how I always see you slamming Sony then, and defending MS.

@Bolded:  What does that even mean.  I did not want to waste time answering something which meant nothing to me.  You suggest I have not read the thread which in my opinion was a defensive measure not to debate the points.

Point 2:  You are arguing from your point of view.  You can name it whatever you want but it doesn't make it valid.  Kowen said MS has an advantage with 300,000 servers and it did not make sense to you.  You countered it just like anyone would if they have a different opinion.  I countered what you stated and for some reason you believe I am attacking you? Statements like that make me believe you believe everything you say is correct and cannot be debated.  You cannot find any statement from me where I have stated Sony service is bad.  The question was raised if Sony can provide the same quality of service if they do not have the resources to provide enough servers and datacenters within the US.

3.  There is no such thing as a lock with a service like this.  Sony has not launched and their biggest competitor appears to be preparing their own service.  Until the service is out there then we can see what investment and commitment Sony has made to make Gaikai a success.  This attitude that you know best is probably the issue more than anything else.  You continue to present an opinion you feel cannot be debated and there is nothing in what you say that is irrefutable.  

4 Show me one post where I am slamming Sony.  I highly doubt you will find it since I know for a fact I never have.  What I find is that people who are pro one company or another cannot separate when someone has an opinion about features or technology instead of praising one company and blinding themselves with fanboy fever.  What you will find is me arguing about certain pieces of technology both companies are bringing with their next gen console.  My opinion is that people who cannot take any criticism of the corporation of their choice is moving more to fanboism than anything else.