'Forced Camera Anti-Consumer' Says Sony

[Max King of the Wild]

irstupid said:

Max King of the Wild said:

irstupid said:

Nintendo doesn't use Blu Ray.  

Blu Ray was anti-consumer last gen if kinect is this gen.  It was an extra added that was NOT needed.  PS3 could have still worked with a dvd drive instead of blu ray.  The Blu Ray drive was an un-NEEDed expense.  It was not NEEDED.  No arguing over if it was a good thing or wanted, the fact was it was not NEEDED to play games.  A cheaper alternative would have worked (dvd drive) or any drive, hell Nintendo hasn't ever even had a dvd drive.  Not sure what you call them, but they have never been able to play dvd's or blu rays or any type of movie format.

So is adding something not NEEDED anti-consumer?

OR

is what you guys seem to be arguing "Whatever I don't like is anti-consumer"  You liked blu ray and thus thinks its a bonus gift, you don't like kinect and thus think its anti-consumer.  So OPINION it is.   But difference is, some games REQUIRE kinect to play.  No games require blu ray to play.

How many times do I need to repeat myself before people like you get the picture?

1. no one said kinect was anti consumer

2. If blu-ray was not needed last gen then niether was 512mb of RAM last gen and 4gb of RAM this gen... but that argument is 100% asinine and no one would make it.

2. totally wrong.  the ram and so on are REQUIRED to run a game.  A disc is just a storage device used to well store data.  A game can be on a usb drive, digital, dvd, blu ray disc, whatever disc nintendo uses, cartridge, ect.  It doesn't matter what the game is on storage wise, BUT it does matter that the console has the power to play the game.

can you not download games on your PS3?  Are multiplat games for 360/ps3 both playable yet are on different formats blu ray/dvd or whatever 360 uses.  The blu ray is just as stated a format that data is stored on.  You could still play ff13 on 100,000,000 floppy discs if the ps3 had a floppy disc drive.  The blu ray drive was an unneeded thing.  

Lets say you download a game on your PS3 and also have the game in hard copy (ie blu ray).  You can play BOTH on your ps3, either digitally or hard.  Now open up your ps3 and remove the ram or the gpu.  Now try and play your game.  Neither the digital or blu ray version will work at all.  THUS those are needed.  The blu ray drive is not.   It could have been left out completly such as PSP Go, or it could have been switched with a CHEAPER alternative such as a standard dvd drive.  

Youre not even addressing the points. Youre babbling about nonsense. The point that RAM is needed is exactly my point. 4gbs of RAM? Well, Wii U uses 1gb of RAm and you used Wii U doesn't use blu-ray as proof that it wasn't needed. Now accept defeat

You also aren't look at the year it was released. No, in 2006 niether Sonys nor MS online store was really any good. Hell MS didn't even have a HD in one of their models.