Is socialism endan^gered in The United States?

[DonFerrari]

MDMAlliance said:

DonFerrari said:

MDMAlliance said:

DonFerrari said:

I agree with you, socialism is not evil, socialist people usually are... and having social concerns doesn't make a country socialist, if that was the case almost every country is socialist... as I said you cherry pick what definition you seem fit... cuba, china, vietnam, cuba, venezuela aren't socialist but germany is, are you sure?

I didn't say Germany is Socialist, I said they are a Democratic Socialist state. 
Democratic socialism is a variant of socialism that rejects centralized, elitist, or authoritarian methods of transitioning from capitalism to socialism in favor of grassroots-level movements aiming for the immediate creation of decentralized economic democracy. Most notably, democratic socialists reject the perceived authoritarian character of Vanguardism and similar ideas central to Leninismand Marxist-Leninist socialist movements.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_socialism

That i can accept as reasoning, but still don't make socialism good, since as you said is democratic socialism, not socialism... and even so I preffer a small government control and size (I live in Brazil and I'm sorry to say it's impossible to trust any government here, so its a case of the smaller the better - and don't even matter the inclination of the party there - have been burned to many times).

If you're arguing about pure Socialism, then I don't think there are any States that are.

However, whether or not you know it, public education (free or subsidized) is a socialistic idea.  Same for anything the government helps pay for that can be used by anyone.  Roads, schools, etc.  In a capitalistic state, the corporations would be the ones paying for it.  Both of these things exist in the United States.  The government pays for the roads and maintenance, while they will often times hire private companies to do the work.  These are things that Socialism does.  The reason it counts as Socialism is because your taxes go to pay for it.   The government makes money only from taxes.

I myself think that there isn't anything the government does that a private company can't do better... and public education and infraestructure are things that preced socialism (but I won't dewell in that to far), and you are still confunding pure free initiative vs estatism with capitalism vs socialism. But that don't matter, as far as we agree that "pure" socialism is a cancer and most of its avocates have hidden agenda I'm fine. I'm not libertarian or total free market so won't discuss against you that some services can't be left for private companies because they only do profitable investiments, and there are things that don't profit or that for it to be profitable much wouldn't have acess...

But food stamps aren't a thing i approve in the way it's applied (at least here) there is no return, just "donation of taxes" to the alleged poor... but initiatives as the infraestructure being built with government funds employing people in dire needs I can support because I see a win situation for everybody (and I also see the benefits of education support, but not always done right)... but I simply can't acept most of the "rights" people claim are needed support from tax money.