Goatseye said:
sc94597 said:
Goatseye said:
I never seen so much struggle to live in a developed country like I do in US. And here there's no neighbors or family to help you out.
In other countries there's a sense of community and cooperation. Not here, if you need something and you don't have money you're effed.
Here they make money off of despair, high interest rates on loans and private penitenciaries for absurd free slave labor profit.
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That is complete bullshit. Stop generalizing. I come from a family so close and almost universally impoverished that they hold eachother up. My grandmother needed money for her property taxes, my mom had excess to lend her. Conversely, my mother was behind on her rent, and my grandmother and aunt were able to lend money until my mother got back on her feet. Maybe in the very impersonal cities where everybody is rude to eachother and looks out for themselves this is the case, but certainly not in most of middle-class and working-class suburban/small city/rural America. As for community and cooperation, again, this is evident in the huge number of private and public community events that can be found in almost every, single municipality. The only reason for somebody to come to the conclusion you have is complete ignorance.
But, just to disprove your anecdotes further,
Choose "voluntary private" and look to see which countrymen gives to his or her fellows the most out of his or her own free will, at 10.2% GDP (vasty more than any other.)
http://stats.oecd.org/Index.aspx?datasetcode=SOCX_AGG
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Maybe I didn't insert "more" in sense of community.
"Choose "voluntary private" and look to see which countrymen gives to his or her fellows the most out of his or her own free will, at 10.2% GDP (vasty more than any other.)"- Please man, that's just for tax relief. Free will? Where do you live?
Most inner cities and metropolis which harbors most of US population, live in a rat race to come up. One for all and all for one.
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Metropolitan area =/= major city. There's a huge difference between inner-city Pittsburgh and the suburbs in the metropolitan area for example, or even between neighborhoods in Pittsburgh. Furthermore, I come from a metropolitan area (Scranton-Wilkes-Barre) that doesn't have a major city, just a few tiny ones (the biggest is 80,000 people.) In both places, there is a strong sense of community. These are MY anecdotes, and they are quite evidently verified by empirical and statistical evidence (see: OECD link previously posted.) Social spending of GDP is just as high in the United States as in other first world countries, it just so happens that in the United States a third of it is volunatry and private, whilst in other countries almost all of it is mandatory and public. Who cares more about his fellow man in his communites? The man/woman who must be forced to give, or the man/woman who wants to give?
