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Mnementh said:
walsufnir said:
 


Anti-americanism is established in Germany since a long time, long before the NSA-bomb. Please differentiate and see that there is also invalid criticism against USA.

And really, do you remember Otto Schily and Joschka Fischer when they were minister? They were even worse than the ones before and wre not from CDU/CSU. Don't get me started what they did before their political career! I think it's amazing how people don't see failures of the party they vote for and only concentrate on the failures of others.

Even before NSA was valid criticism existing against the US. And that some people make silly criticism against the US (9/11 was a false-flag-operation of the CIA), that doesn't mean everyone has to silence my criticism against the US by lumping me together with such people. It is a usually way to get rid of uncomfortable criticism - claiming it's only "anti-americanism".

And yes, especially Schily was a proponent of policae-state like the CDU is today. And Fischer and Schröder were the guys of the big companies. But I don't elect SPD and Green either.


Of course there is valid criticism against USA but some are constantly hating against USA and this is anti-americanism.

I think it is really surprising how the minds change when they have responsabilities. Look back at 1998, how Grüne sent German soldiers to Kosovo and look how they today are influenced by energy companies. They played their role back then and still profit from it. To me they are as bad or good as any other big party we have. And they want it the way it is now. They don't want intruders like AfD or Piraten - after talkshows were they fight each other, sit together, drink some beer or wine and laugh together.