fatslob-:O said:
zorg1000 said:
fatslob-:O said:
zorg1000 said:
Link to the Past remake sold 2.7m which is like 60% of the original so that shows some consistancy when it comes to Zelda remakes. Even tho u claim Wind Waker isnt the best Zelda, it still sold 4.6m which is the same as LttP which is considered by many to be the best and was on a console with over double the sales of GC.
u didnt answer why u think 3D Mario and Zelda are declining
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Not sure If I can count zelda four swords a remake, it's more of a rerelease with more added content if you ask me and the reason I say zelda is declining is because skyward sword did 3.7mil compared to twilight princess pulling in 8.3mil(counting gc sales too) and that right there is a drop off of 4.5MILLION compared to say the drop off from zelda OOT to majora's mask with about 4mil.
3D mario has been declining otherwise SMG 2 saled a fair bit less compared to the first even though they were both crtically acclaimed the gap was about 3.5mil.
What you don't understand is that people would want 2D mario with ambition rather than 3D mario for the developers to self indulge.
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Why are u bringin up 4 Swords? GBA had a rerelease of LttP.
Also u dont just look at the most recent title to show if a series is declining. Like I said, the second Zelda always sells significantly less than the first released on a console. Zelda-6.5m, Zelda 2-4.4m, OoT-7.6m, MM-3.6m, TP-6.8m(8.3 both versions), SS-3.3m. That is fairly consistant and Skyward Sowrd required an add-on and was released when Wii was already in sever decline.
3D Mario has not been declining my last post shows u how it has stayed consistant for over 15 years.
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You realize that mario 64 sold around 12mil with a much smaller audience and on the wii the first 3D mario did 10.8mil and this time it went down to 7mil with a much bigger install base. You know that the mainstream doesn't desire 3D mario but that is why NSMBWii outsold both SMG and SMG 2. Now can you admit that nobody but 3D mario fans want these games.
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Some series have a consistant fanbase despite install base, 3D Mario, Donkey Kong, Zelda, Metroid, Kirby all sell generally the same whether they are on a console with a 20m or 100m install base.
U are the king of bringing up shit that has nothing to do with what we are talking about. What does 2D Mario have anything to do with our conversation? This debate started as me asking how PS4/One can pass Wii U lifetime sales by the end of the fiscal year, in order for that to happen, Wii U would have to sell about 1m over the holidays and there is no chance they only sell that much.
Moderated - Kresnik.