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Kasz216 on 20 September 2013
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badgenome said:
Kasz216 said:

Once again,  Vita sales pale in comparison to pre-monster hunter PSP sales.   That's a gurantee of customer loss.

Afterall a number of Monsterhunter owners are likely those who bought PSP's early and as you put it... "put them away" right?

 

They're going to make the same mistake for one franchise?  Here's another thing I think your missing.   Most people who owned a PSP, likely owned a DS.   Look at the sales numbers vs the population of Japan.   Why?  Well Playstation WAS on top of the world when the PSP came out... like you said.    It isn't anymore... (Well not for a few months) and after seeing what a dissapointment the PSP was to most people... why would they own both again?   (Me I liked the PSP, but this is the assumption you were going with.)

You are right that it's essentially the PSP.... and that's what the obstacle is.  It's the PSP without the advantages the PSP started with, and the negative feelings the PSP generally provided.  Along with less compelling software... even with Monster Hunter it would of had less projects focused on it then the PSP did.

PSP sales don't have to be 1 to 1, but they do have to be 1 to 1 among monster hunter fans more or less... and it's a gigantic assumption to assume it should be with essentially everything else falling around it.

If Monster Hunter really was that Popular... Capcom would just create their own handheld.

That's a loss of customers for Sony, sure, but not really a loss of customers for this one Capcom franchise. There are many fewer potential customers on the 3DS right now than there were on the PSP when MHP3 came out, but MH4 still performed comparably at launch. That's due to the series' present strength, and it doesn't really matter because most 3DS owners just aren't really potential Monster Hunter fans anyway. Just like most PSP owners weren't. There are about 4-5 million people in Japan who will buy a new Monster Hunter game, and there's not really any room for growth beyond that without betraying everything that the game is. I think this is why they're making Gaist Crusher: it's Monster Hunter for people who don't like Monster Hunter.

I'm not sure how burned we can say people really felt by the PSP. Early adopters might have felt so way back when this happened, which is going on about a decade ago now. But with the way the PSP was regularly topping the charts in Japan for years thereafter? That doesn't really say, "We hate this system."

There are lots of reasons Capcom wouldn't just create its own handheld because they have one single powerful IP anymore than Activision is going to create a new console because they have COD. They are a software house, not a hardware developer. They barely even touch other people's handhelds nowadays. Even the 3DS isn't getting much from them. They do have this one game that still sells a ton on traditional portables and they'll ride that out while they can, but they clearly believe that mobile is the future.

Well first off, that's not true.   Capcom creates a lot of gaming hardware, just not hardware that's sold directly to consumers.

Secondly, a loss of customers for sony only logically means a loss of customers for Monster Hunter.  You can debate how many customers would be lost, but the fact that there would be a loss of customers is undeniable.

As for how burned people were by the PSP... Vita's sales speak to that compaired to what they were before PSP.  It's just that obvious and undeniable.

You keep wanting to assume that those monster hunter users would be in a different hypothetical box, but that's a highly suspect position considering the very size of the box.   I mean, you really think Vita sales would of more then doubled, and that nearly everyone who owned a PSP wanted Monster Hunter?  That's just ridiculious.