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landguy1 on 14 September 2013
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S.T.A.G.E. said:
landguy1 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:


Definitely. Microsoft is so obsessed with beating Sony that they give away every weakness.


Your obsession with trying to prove that Sony is better than M$ and M$ is "obsessed" with beating Sony is borderline fanatical.

The fact that you believe that M$ finds Sony to be their main competition is the unfortunate part of this whole thing.  Sure, it is important for M$ to be sucessful in the gaming arena, as it fits into the bigger puzzle for them.  Would M$ like it if the PS4 was a failure - probably.  M$'s competition is Google/Apple.  If Sony even puts out another Playstation after this, it will not have their operating system.  It will more than likely be an Android/Chrome OS.  The next gen systems if they even happen will only be supported if they are on an OS that developers are already developing on.  M$ is trying to maintain some level of relevence with all of their OS's being compatible to each other.  If M$ sells 50 million XB1s they will have been succesful.  That's 50 million people using their xbox music/movies/apps + the hundreds of millions of people running windows.  That is what M$ is after.  That's why they revealed the XB1 and hardly talked about games.  Sure, they would love it if you and the other 30 million core gamers around the world fell in love with their system, but they don't need them to.  MS isn't worried aout Sony being in the business of media portal, they have already given up that opportunity when they didn't succeed in taking their install base of the PS3 and turning it into a full fledged portal for it's users.  The PS4 will outsell the XB1 and probably by a good margin unless M$ comes up with some fad game around the kinect that propels the XB1 like the Wii.   In 5-7 years, Sony will still be Sony.  They will produce hardware that runs everyone elses software/music/games.  IF M$ is lucky, the xbox store will have taken hold and they will have put themselves in position to stick around long term.

LOL I have no idea what you're so afraid of. You really need to brush up on your gaming history. If Sony didn't corner the multimedia and OS market Microsoft would never have come to the gaming industry. Microsoft tried to partner up with them because they had dominated the gaming industry and amassed a great marketshare, but Sony turned them down. They vowed to stop Sony and "save the PC market" from Sony.  Bullshit...MS wanted to be chummy, chummy with them because they were dominating the console race and wanted to be associated with them. 

Read this Joachim Kemper spoke out about his time at Microsoft and his relationship with Steve Balmer, describing him as a "bully" and why MS is in the gaming industry.

"Speaking with IGN, Kempin now states that the only reason Microsoft entered the console market was to challenge Sony head-on, suggesting that there is some bad blood between both parties. The decision – he says – came directly from Bill Gates himself."

“Yeah, they bought Windows for their PCs but when you really take a hard look at that, they were never Microsoft’s friend. And Microsoft in a way wanted them to be a friend because they knew they had a lot of things we could have co-operated on because they are, in a way, an entertainment company, you know?

“I mean, at least a portion of Sony is and they had some really good things going there, but as soon as they came out with a video console, Microsoft just looked at that and said ‘well, we have to beat them, so let’s do our own.’”

http://www.vg247.com/2013/02/07/microsoft%E2%80%99s-entered-the-console-race-to-stop-sony-claims-former-exec/

 

Their one aim...their one goal is to crush Sony. They could lose profit and would still come after them because Sony refused to be their "friend". It hurts Microsoft to their very core that a company like Sony could outsmart them and this is why they rushed the 360 to beat them to the market this gen and this is why they are scrambling to save this somehow unimportant power differential to save their perception issues. Tell me, have you ever seen a company scramble so hard to get back at Sony? Wait...oh yeah...Sega.

You actually made my point.  M$ recognized they needed to be in the console space for their long term goals.  If Sony won't partner with them they had to do something.  That was then.  Google and Apple were nothing back then.  In 2013, Sony is still a hardware company.  M$ only manufactures hardware to advace in areas that they can't make the right alliance to do so.  Do you really think that M$ sits in meetings and says "let's get Sony"?  They spend their time on how to get more penetration of their pay systems.  Of course they need to be sucessful in gaming, as it is hooked up to the TV.  Do they need to be 1st? No, not when your the only other person that can outsell you is not in your core business.  Based on the information that you posted above from 10 yrs ago, which is not obviously really relevent today, M$ would probably only be happier when they prove to Sony they should have partnered together for the long term.