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Machiavellian on 10 September 2013
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Madword said:
Machiavellian said:
Madword said:
Couple of things.

1. The guy doesnt know the full Sony specs and how it compares to the XboxOne so really shouldnt try and compare the two.
2. I can see why he has replied, but he should just make a simple reply of he doesn't believe that the two consoles are that far apart, otherwise it just becomes a right old mess.
3. If both consoles were available to test and there was no other evidence, then I might be inclined to believe him more because of his suggestion that he has gone to his top tech guy... but as he hasnt got a PS4.. how can he know.

I can understand he is in a difficult position... but at the end of it all the games will speak for themselves. If they hadnt done such a rubbish PR job, perhaps pre-orders wouldnt be so bad and they wouldnt feel so much pressure to try and defend their box, rather than just sell it on it's merits.

If the guy is wrong, and his tech guy is wrong, then his credibility will be lost. The only problem i see is that this is coming from the company that stated their console will be 40x more powerful because of the cloud... so I am going to wait and see.

Well no one knows Sony full specs but for what they have released.  So why can he not compare what was released compared to what MS has released.  People have been doing this since June.  Hell, this is the reason we have this 50% performance being touted around for months.

You cannot just make a simple comment like that.  Either try to back it up or shut up.  Personally not sure why he even wasted his time.  Who knows maybe he likes to go into fights where everyone has swords and he is carrying a pocket knife.

I am sure MS and Sony has a unit from each company sitting some where in a lab.

When MS can tell their investor that they are shipping and consumers are buying out their supply, I am sure they are doing fine.  Do not fall for fanboy wars where its a big deal if one company is selling more preorders than another.  this is a much longer race then what will happen in 1 to to years and I believe the consoles that release this November will be much different 2 years from now.

Lets get the quotes right, MS stated that having the cloud will be like having 4 X1 in one box.  Whos to say if that will ever happen but they do have the platform, infrastructure and code base to make it work.

I don't need to back it up...Of course I can make a simple comment like that, its a free country and this is a gaming forum... get over yourself.

He is saying that they have hidden things that make the hidden things they dont know about in the Sony console that makes theirs just as good. Seriously its stupid and rediculous converstation by them. I have said i understand why they might need to quell the conversation, but this isnt doing them any favours. I point you towards the Neogaf thread for evidence. How can they claim one thing without knowing the other.

Hey I didnt use the 40x more powerful... MS did. Blame them for that. As someone who worked with cloud servers and data servers, believe me when i call bullshit on that... hey happy to eat crow in 25+ years time when it finally rings true.

As with pre-orders, yeah they were doing that well they dropped all their DRM, online, and basically made it a PS4. They were doing that well they have had to add FIFA in for day 1 pre-orders to show they have good "value". I am not making this crap up, the evidence is there whether you like it or not.

Of course the race isnt won or lost day 1 but did i say that .. no i did not..., i just said they had done a rubbish PR job... or are you claiming they have done a good PR job since they announced the console? I think you need to chill out a bit and not get so defensive.

Ohh you are going to pull the free country bit.  Why give an opinion and shrare it if you are not going to take the time to support it.  So are you stating you will just make any type of baseless comment without taking the few moments to make sure what you are saying is correct?

As for someone who also work with cloud servers, datacenters and develop cloud based applications that are distributed on millions of servers I call your statement more BS.  I know what the cloud can do and I also know what a platform specifically designed for its strenghts can also accomplish.  Basically Orleans which is MS cloud development platform was created to assit developers in creating cloud based distributed code.  Fully understanding how that setup can take games to another platform is not looking at the bigger picture.  

Who cares where they were 3 months ago, its evident that they are not there now.  As for the X1, its more like a 360 than PS4.  Exactly what is the same about the X1 that make it like the PS4.  Besides dropping the online bit, the 2 consoles are very different.  As for Fifa, are you saying Sony is desparate for giving Knack away for free in a Bundle for Japan???  Is this somehow un-natural for a new console to come bundled with a game on release as incentive to purchase the system.  Evidently your evidence is more personal than anything else.  You act as if Sony and MS are not competiting for sales. 

You implied that preorders is this something that will define this generation, just make sure you see beyound first day sales.  Even now you talk about Fifa as if MS is desparate but forget that Sony is giving a free game in Japan.