darkknightkryta said:
Machiavellian said:
darkknightkryta said:
It really depends, did AMD build a stacked APU themselves? I personally don't think they have the engineers capable of that. But assuming they did, why hide it? Why big up the PS4 over the Xbox One (Refering to the Huma tech debacle) if the Xbox One is as powerful as a high end video card? Which means, MS made the changes. If MS made the changes why not tout it like the coming of christ? Why bother saying you've increased GPU and CPU clocks when you've never actually given any clock information? You could easily have said "Hey this is the GPU clock, it's higher than the PS4s" vs "Hey we increased the clock from a base clock we've never announced". Why hide a second GPU if you've developed the tech? AMD would be under NDA not MS. Unless they literally added the GPU last second, which ... well I wouldn't wanna be an Xbox employee come November when Xboxes start melting.
On the flip end, if MS is under NDA, I'm sure AMD would be pimping out their tech and putting it in their roadmaps, which they haven't. For a comparison; they've mentioned they're going to be manufacturing PS4 APU's for consumers.
Which leads to the next possibility; dev kits. It's quite possible that the devkit has a second GPU for development of assets, or debugging. It would make those crazy mistranslated e-mails make sense. It would also make sense that Major Nelson would be confused cause he was looking at the devkits and thinking the final build would have a second GPU.
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As for the sales guy who made the mistake of talking about stuff he probably shouldn't, who knows. It would not be the first time a sales person trying to sell their product does not know a lot about what is happening with another. Do not forget that after Hotchips it was seen that MS does have a huma design just not the standard one that AMD has because of the SRAM, so basically the AMD guy did not know what he was talking about or he only knows that Sony chip follows their HuMA design and has no clue about how the X1 achieve the same results.
@Bolded: You do know that AMD is releasing info on their new chip on Sept 25th right.
I believe you are reaching on the dev kit part. As for Larry, who knows what he knows but I doubt is devs kits but instead he is just repeating what Albert stated. No one is really taking Larry that serious but Alberts statements are the one you should be listening to. We shall see if what he says can be backed up but least for release, MS should be fine.
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Which chip though? The APU that's being built around the PS4?
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Who knows what chip, thats the question. On the 25th AMD will be releasing info on their volcanic Island "Hawaii" GPU. Right now just a bunch of rumors flying around but this is suppose to be the rumored reveal of the dGPU.
Interesting that the person who was making all the comments on the subject post are all deleted including any replys. He did link to something very interesting which was the linkin profile of an AMD employee who description showed he is QA PS4, X1 and dGPU. Oh well, it will be interesting when the 29th comes.
