| Mmmfishtacos said: How's is it flawed? It's not like Dual GPU is anything new. MS, Hey we run two GPU's we are more powerful. End of story. They could have waited to show the mother board and the hot chips discussion till after the 29. But they didn't they’ve already discussed and shown their mother board, and that doesn’t break the supposed NDA? Same GPU? it's just based of the AMD Gpu, Sony modified it to be what it is. There would have been better GPU's at the time, it's not like they pick the top of the line GPU at the time. I'm not an expert it just seems to me that it would be easier to have one GPU that twice the powerful than two separate GPUs. In my field and generally with any machine, the more moving parts the more likely that machine will fail. That's why I asked why going with to mid-level GPU over one High end GPU would be better.
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Yeah, you are right that duel GPUs are nothing new but how many duel GPUs in an APU are out in the market. How many combination of an APU with a 2nd GPU do you see out there now. How many of such parts does AMD make now. I really do not know what to say. You are really not thinking your argument through very well. How is MS going to make a statement about a design that does not exist today an not tread on AMD announcement. You act as if things just end with that one statement and nobody is going to ask How, where is the GPU, what are the specs, how does it integrate with the APU. So MS release that Pandora box and you believe they can just say No comment from that point on.
You do know that the hot chips conference isnt an MS conference right. You do know MS cannot delay the conference because they want to announce something later in the year. You do know that MS presented at Hotchips for the 360 as well so they probably had an agreement with Stanford to present the X1 chip. How is showing the motherboard would break the NDA when the dGPU is rumored to be on the second layer? If you are going to argue a point, at least understand the technology first.
Better GPUs at what time. As I mentioned without knowing when the actual APU custom design was built and finish who knows what was avaliable. Have you ever setup a PC using crossfire or even Nvidia SLI. depending on the card, you can actually get better performance with 2 GPU cards than one uber card for cheaper. Case in point would be the Nvidia Titan. You can put together 2 680s and for cheaper than one Titan and in most scenarios get the same performance or better.
This is not a car, there are no moving parts. That analogy doesn't really fit with the hardware in question. If that was the case then having a CPU 8 of them and one GPU would make the whole design really unstable than just adding another GPU. The question is not why going from a mid level GPU to a high end, the question is what does the gGPU does that AMD decided to create such a part. The way your argument is structure it appears as if you believe MS built this part but its AMD who built the part. Why does AMD feel the need for a dGPU, what is the benefit and cost savings compared to a regular APU with a GPU card. What would a customer purchase a APU with a dGPU over other combinations. The question isn't why MS wouldn't use such a chip because its obvious, the question is why AMD made such a part and what are the benefits. We will not know that until the 29th.
