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Slimebeast on 06 September 2013
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dsgrue3 said:
Slimebeast said:

Oh com'on man, of course they're insults on me as a person. And they're meant to be. It's your cheap technique to debate.
(at the same time, you are formally a very good debater, you are undoubtedly a very intelligent person, you have clarity and stringency in your arguments and how you present them. I want to be clear about that.)

This is not just about me, it is also about you. I am asking you to behave in a civilized manner.

Again, you end your post with sarcastic, snide remarks. "thoroughly confused", "take a break", "emotionally fragile".

That's so unnecessary.

Very well, I accept the gracious compliment.

I'm a snarky person as is, so it's unlikely to change regardless of the format. While I can be aware of this tendency, I rarely refine my posts. A little bite is necessary at times to express a particularly upsetting statement. It really is about the position of ignorance. Nothing upsets me more than that. 

I think the confusion part was necessary as I've not made claims. I've made arguments against yours. It's an important distinction to maintain during our discourse. 

Great. Thank you.

Now that you openly admit it and explain it: that ignorance upsets you greatly so that it can affect your tone in discussions, and that you are perhaps even slightly dispositioned for it in your personality, it's much easier to accept.

I understand that and I accept that. I also understand the logic behind it - the more outrageous a statement is (from your point of view), the more you have "right" to dismiss it in a less polite manner. I work the same way to some extent. Most of us do, it's natural. And then there's the element of rethorics (the added "bite") in discourse. The bigger disagreement, the more bite there will be.

I also understand the distinction, that it matters who makes the claims in the first place, then logic dictates that the burden of proof is heavier on that part (and in turn that also can affect the tone in the exchange of arguments). I just want to be clear in that I understand the distinction.