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Andrespetmonkey said:

hahahaha well that's true. I didn't bring it up btw, was just bouncing off spurge, though tbh I probably would have anyway. I think it's because a higher standard has been set by shows like BB and GOT, and the best way to put TWD's flaws into perspective is to draw comparison, and then this goes down the rabbit hole of conversation and before you know it TWD isn't even in the discussion anymore. 

Let's talk TWD then, if you want. Have you read the comics? I'm really hoping S4 adopts the pacing of the comics or at least the first season, and corrects it's focus. The show to me is becoming what SO many post-apoc shows/movies become, a great idea not living up to it's potential. The settings are interesting, we have a solid group to follow etc. but there's too strong a focus on human drama, which for sure plays a huge role in something about the collapse of society, but I wish it didn't distract from, for example in season 2, the idea of self-sustainability on the farm, human invaders/looters, zombie attacks, the conflict between hershal and rick over the groups residency on the farm... this stuff was all present, but seemed secondary to a love triangle and a missing girl (except in that episode at the end of S2 when a horde attacks the farm, that was awesome). S3 seemed to be on the right track, it was brilliant for a while, but then it went out with a whimper when we were expecting  so much more. That said, I still like the show for what it is, and the season 4 trailer looked great, even had a few throwbacks to the comics.


Now we're talking.

I have read the comics, and I totally understand where you're coming from. The comics mainly had romance on the backburner and integrated into the story amongst leadership issues, humanity problems, internal vs external threats, etc. as events unfolded, much like real life does. The show's emphasis on such is for ratings and for the female fanbase, which I personally don't mind as much because I love all the couples on the show.

I definitely agree that Season 3's first half was stronger, but I thought the ending was actually a pretty good lead-up for next season. I'm banking on it all working in the grand scheme of things, but it's a wait and see approach, I guess.