Bethesda/Gearbox point out why they don't support Wii U

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DevilRising said:

S.T.A.G.E. said:
To the Nintendo-heads who don't believe its really Nintendo that are holding themselves back from third parties, this is what I have been saying all along. Nintendo creates their consoles without truthfully consulting third parties to see what they think. These aren't the days when third parties were under their control and didnt have a liberating entity to give them different hardware architecture whilst commanding the mass marketshare.

NO console developer made their systems while consulting any third party development studio in the past. Not Microsoft, not Sony, not Nintendo, not anyone. This is the first generation any of them have ever truly done so, and for the record, Nintendo did in fact do so at least a bit, which is why you see the console have more traditional controls, why has a MUCH better online structure, why they are really bending over backwards to work with indie developers, and why, even though it's not "on par" with the PS4, the console (still) has fairly powerful HD hardware to work with. Sure, at the end of the day, Nintendo "did their own thing", and honestly good for them. If I wanted a home console that acted like a PC, I'd just play my PC. But Nintendo worked with third parties very heavily early on. The support was there, as seen in their launch. It is simply the fact that third party support dropped off quite a bit after the months-long drought, which is a double edged sword. Some companies like EA claim that Nintendo needs to sell the system better with their own games, before they bring back strong support. And yet, the argument can also absolutely be made that the Wii U software drought wouldn't have been nearly as bad, if for example EA had a game or two that released in the first half of the year, or if Ubisoft had not gone mental and still released Rayman Legends in Feb. like they were supposed to, etc.

It really does work both ways. Yes, Nintendo does need to get their own games out there to sell their own system. But on the other hand, if third party devs would support Wii U more strongly with games like Resident Evil, Madden, WWE, Battlefield, GTA, etc., it would help the console to look all the more attractive to potential buyers. It has never been the case that third party games aren't important on Nintendo consoles. It's just that Nintendo themselves make such good games (usually) that they are always the "main attraction" on their systems. Then again, on some level you could argue that exclusives on ANY console are the main attraction. Nintendo is finally getting the "big guns" rolling out to help their console sell, and the price drop and Zelda bundle will help immensely. But more companies need to step up like Ubisoft or Warner Bros., and still offer strong support to the console, to offer a larger, more varied amount of software for potential Wii U buyers to have available to them. Like I said, it works both ways.

I would implore you to look up the history of Nintendo and then get back to me. Secondly, yes Microsoft and Sony have always had a close relationship with third party, its just that with the PS3 Kutaragi got careless and there was no one else to blame but him for the PS3's mistakes with the architecture and multiplatform games which made only exclusives play as expected (sound similar to Nintendo, doesn't it?). Same thing with Microsoft for the red ring when rushing the console. Outside of that they have had a much greater relationship with third party. If Sony hadn't talked to third party about their tech or Sega pissing off third party devs without consulting developers about their rushed launch of the Sega Saturn Sony wouldn't have been in the position they would've been in. All you have to do is listen and have deep pockets to provide. It also helps to have an identity in mind for what you will provide yourself on your console.