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Seece on 01 September 2013
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zorg1000 said:
Seece said:
Zero999 said:
Seece said:
Zero999 said:

wii u hasn't received enough software for anyone to say that.

Disagree, it's been 10 months and it's the worst selling console weekly WW ever I think? All initiatives so far have failed and that includes casual and core nintendo offerings.

now you are just trolling. time is irrelevant, it's been 9 months and almost no games. can't analyse the system before 2013 holidays.

I think you need to learn what the word trolling means. 9/10 months it's hardly any different.

Can analyse it whenever I like, as many are doing and are coming up with the obvious conclusion.

All I can say is your expectations are way too high and you're going to end up disappointed. It's not going to suddenly take off at this point.

Obviously its not going to take off to Wii status but I strongly believe it will pass GC/N64 level, id say 40m or so and thats a totally respectable number.

As backwards and misguided Zero is at times, he has a point, yes it has the worst post launch sales ever but it also has the worst post launch line up ever. Pikmin and Lego City are the biggest titles to release this year and a bunch of late ports/multiplats to games on PS360, consoles with over 150m install base and cost $50-100 less with proven libraries.

Mario, DKC, Wii Fit, Wii Party, Mario Kart, Smash bros are all series that sell over 5m consistantly and the console will now be $100-200 cheaper than the competition, come with a game and have free online so PS4/One with a game and online become $200-300 more expensive. I think in the long run both those consoles will pass Wii U but it has a 2-3 year window that it will sell well and be as strong competitor. It doesnt need to sell like Wii or get 1st place to be a success.

That's a fair enough prediction, I wouldn't be surprised to see it reach those numbers and if I had to bet I would say it'll pass GC in the long run, but not 100% certified quite yet.

PS3 had an even dire post launch line up, actually I think it continued for much longer than the WiiU's has, to add to that it never went below 70k in the US despite being $500/$600. WiiU is doing half of that despite being half that price.

I agree that a console doesn't need to be 1st place or sell 80m+ to be a success. If they got to 50 mill and gained good profits then that's good enough IMO.

But the situation still looks bleak, and I don't buy those games are going to do anything meaningful, I think they'll get Nintendo fans on board that haven't jumped in yet (and there are millions left) but in terms of the blue ocean/casuals? I don't buy they will ever be interested unless Nintendo come out with something truly remarkable SF wise, something we can't figure out.

I'm not saying the WiiU is a bad system, but at its core it is its own problem, it's just not appealing to the core (for many obvious reasons, tech, 3rd party, 1st party, online) and it's not appealing to the casuals because A) they've move onto smartphones, B) it's in no way remotely accessible to those that coule easily pick up and play with the Wii) and C) It's not fresh, it's not an IT product.

This has all been said a thousand times over though,