Xbox One CPU Clocks In At ~1.9GHz

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Adinnieken said:

I didn't say he was, I asked him if he was.  There is a significant difference.

I personally know of no way to calculate the CPU speed based on the components that support the CPU.  I neither accept nor defend the validity of the authors statement.  That said, the guy who wrote this has been in the field, he's written countless articles, and he advises clients on the subject of semi-components.  His creditials are solid.

I don't have a problem with someone saying they don't believe it.  I take issue with someone saying he's wrong and not being able to contradict what he is saying.  I haven't read post for post, but so far I haven't read where EThomaz has actually contradicted his argument, he's only introduced his own argument to rationalize why the author is wrong.  I want more than that.  To me, that isn't a justified argument against someone who has creditials I can take stock in.

Understand, this isn't an attack on EThomaz, per se.  This is an attack on the shrill and insufficient conversations that permeate the Internet.  Opinions are like assholes.  We all know this.  Everyone has one.  There needs to be a higher level of conversation where people can actually move out of their encampments to come to rational, logical conclusions. 

That's what this is about.  The moderation on this site won't do anything to improve the level of discussion or discourse.  As long as no one is trolling or flaming, they don't see problems.  Unfortunately there are problems and they are significant to the level of discourse on this site.  Seriously, why are your most vocal Xbox supporters the most frequently banned?  On the face of it you will say because they've violated the rules, but the problem is we can't have a conversation here about the Xbox platform without the thread being filled with useless opinion.  Unfortunately, the few people on this site who can straddle both sides of the isle with some unbiasedness often resort to the same childish conversation.

I believe EThomaz is capable of providing decent, unbiased, quality conversation.  I want him to offer insightful, thoughtful, intelligent arguments.  That was my challenge in saying "prove it."  I don't always agree with what Walsulfur says, but the guy when he makes an argument comes packing heavy fire.  He supports pretty much every argument he makes. 

I'm not saying every conversation on this site has to be intellectual.  I'm saying, if someone is going to refute someone who is a known professional in their industry and has experience and credentials in that industry, and you say they're wrong.  You better have a good argument to support it.

There is a huge difference between.  "He's wrong." and "I think he's wrong."  The first one is fact, the second one is opinion.  One implies first-hand knowledge that contradicts.  The other an opinion, whether educated or not.

I don't want to shut-out differing opinions from my own, but the shrill, immature conversations are getting tiresome.  They're getting tiresome for a lot of people, not just me.  That's why you see people in your Xbox community getting banned more frequently.  That's why you see your Nintendo community leaving.  You have a problem.  It's not those two communities, and it isn't the level of conversation we bring to the site.  How we act is a direct reflection of how we are treated.

If you want this site to be one big Sony circlejerk, do nothing.  It'll happen.  Your community will continute to fester and boil until the Xbox and Nintendo community leave for good.  You want to a strong gaming community, you want lively and intelligent conversation, then start considering doing something to foster it.  Because right now you're banning the people that help bring something diverse to this site.

You assumed.  Your assumptions are patently false.     

The difference between asking him if he's ____ or ____ insulting terms or just telling him he is is pretty minor.  I'll give an example.  Let's say Dan from my lab messes up and breaks something.  I can ask him how it happened, tell him how much money he wasted, and tell him we can't have this happen again, but if I ask him "are you incompetent or just an idiot?" I've gone into insulting him.  Now obviously I'm using hyperbole since you asked if he was full of shit or trolling and accusing someone of trolling isn't against the rules, but telling someone they're full of shit certainly is.  Regardless you accused Ethomaz of not backing up his points fully, which is fair, but you decided to also attack him personally which is not ok regardless of your reasons.  

I see this argument every now and then that moderators should be trying to do what they can to foster the community, and I think that's fair to a point, but you can't let that get in the way of moderating what has to be moderated.  If MS fans break the rules then they'll be moderated for it just like anyone else and that's all there is to it.  Moderators can do their best to be exemplary members of the community and set a good example, but we can't give certain sections of the community preferrential treatment in order to keep up diversity.  I will consider the idea of counting unsubstantiated facts as spam and bring that up to the head mod, but I don't think that would be particularly good for the community, and yet I think that's the only fair way that one could make a rule against the issues you appear to be having.  

Not sure what assumptions you're referencing, but I think they were pretty reasonable.  Just so happened whoever moderated this thread didn't agree with me on your post's breaking the rules.