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attaboy on 29 August 2013
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danasider said:
attaboy said:
JerCotter7 said:
Aww I was hoping for good estimates in how much it cost to design these consoles. Instead I got this. I plan to get a PS4 and one game. So I know how much it costs. No need for this thread to tell me it costs a lot more.

I wanna know R&D costs more.


Pretty much, this.

I remember when I got an Xbox 360 and people were saying "Well, you're gonna have to buy a WiFi adapter but with the PS3 you get it for free.  That's another $100 right there...."  Why in the fuck do you just assume I had to buy a Wi Fi adapter?!?  My consoles all sit three feet from my router!  All of these hypothetical "You're gonna have to buy" assumptions tend to serve a specific purpose.  Buy what you want because each case in optional.

Already have Wii Remotes?  Great.  Don't want an extra controller?  Fine.  Not a fan of indie games?  Swell.  Don't tell me what I'll have to buy.  The entry cost of the hardware is all that matters.  For all anyone knows, I rent my games from Gamefly.


I agree that the OP is a little misleading because of the assumptions made.  I'd rather see it in tiers (entry level as bare minimum cost of system, starter level with online service and a game or two/indie game, and a full package including cameras, charging kits/costs of batteries, headsets, aforemention online service and games).  But either way, it looks like PS4 is cheaper regardless.

If you want the most entry level, PS4 is $100 dollars cheaper (in the states, cheaper in other countries also, but I forget the breakdown off the top of my head).  If you want to see prices for a configuration with just online services (the games will be priced the same so I'll just leave that out), PS4 is cheaper even further, because its online service is $10 dollars cheaper.  The final configuration is probably closest, because PS players have to adopt an PS Eye (which will be $60), but its still $40 dollars less than the $100 premium of XB1.  And seeing how PS Eye has done in the past, I doubt that configuration will be any popular.

Everything else is pretty much a wash.  The optional batteries/charging kit/$10 Live premium for XB1 balance the PS's optional purchase of a headset (which is optional because every box comes with a earset, flimsy yes, but useful in communication nonetheless).  The free fifa is great, but I am positive with my past PS+ experience that the service gives way more than $60 dollars in free games per year of service and is better than Live for freebies (I've had Live for longer so I'm not guessing here).  KI is a non issue, because PSN has its own scaled down online game for free: Drive Club.

If anything the entry level for PS4 offers even more value, because you can play f2p without PSN and stream netflix and use a bunch of services for free that Live doesn't allow.  So at the most entry level (assuming a consumer has no games, doesn't want psn or live) you get XB1's Fifa versus several f2p titles coming to PS4 (the only standout title I can think of atm is Planetside 2) and the ability to use services like hulu or netflix with your console for $500 to $400, respectively.

Is that what you wanted for a breakdown?


Nah.  I don't think an accurate breakdown is possible.  Heck, for me, even my Vita purchase was well over $500 on the first day thanks to some purchases that other people may or may not want.  Any breakdown is a waste of time, in my opinion.  I tend to know what I want and need and make sure I have enough walking into the store.  Heck, with the Wii, I had everything from games to controllers already paid for (I NEVER use the Pro Controller, btw.  It may still have it's original charge)!

I really came to this thread because I thought it was saying how much the consoles cost from R&D and marketing.  I'll leave the now.  No sense in me spoiling the fun.