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the-pi-guy said:
spemanig said:


Lol, doesn't take much faith with numbers like Donkey Kong's 5m, Wii Party's 7m, Mario & Sonic's 8m, Super Mario 3D Land's 8m+, Super Smash Bros' 10m, Wii Fit's 20m, and Mario Kart's 34m. Compared to what? Killzone's 2.9m? Infamous' 2.6m? Lol, ok. You could've maybe argued Kinect's 20m if the thing wasn't $500 plus subscription. "Hardcore gamers" have never and will never influence how well a system will sell. Get ready for a shit storm come the end of Janaury than all next gen consoles are completely out of the womb and have to fair for themselves without preorders or black friday to protect them.

Something to consider about those successes, a lot of those games have been around for awhile and the Wii or DS versions were the only games to see massive success.  It's hard to say whether they'll be able to replicate that success on Wii U in any manner.  Wii was a system that everybody bought, the Wii U won't see the same success.   See Gamecube for a system that didn't even sell as much as Mario Kart Wii.  N64 sold about 33 million, so there are at least 2 Nintendo systems that didn't even sell as much as a game on the Wii.  Let alone the Virtual Boy.  


The Gamecube and N64 were operating under a more hostile environment than the Wii U is. People bought the PS1 and PS2 for their CD/DVD players as well as the PS2 having a near monopoly over 3rd party games. That just won't happen. The PS4 will never be another PS2. It can even be another Wii. The PS2 had GTA, Final Fantasy, and Kingdon Hearts as exclusives. It didn't have to deal with Call of Duty. Those systems failed simply because Sony sold better. They don't have the mojo to do that again. Not with all that the PS4 doesn't offer. I think the Wii U will see that success. It's all in the design. It's mainly up to the marketing team now, but if they do what it looks like they've set themselves up to do, it will be a frighteningly successful holiday for the Wii U.