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Insider Daily: Xbox is w2w APU + discrete hi-end GPU + future proof tech from 2014-2015 PCs

misterxmedia
August 25th, 18:03
Insider: Congratulations on getting married....m

Well I guess you realise the unjustified hate sony has spread throughout the industry, has had a huge impact on Microsoft and its xbox brand. It has seen ms hardened up on nda and even resigned some of the bosses in control of xbox. The last 4 months has been to risky to contact you.. with the stricken rules... I would have risked way to much. But the best way to let you know the truth was to work harder then I ever have. The people behind the xbox brand stand buy the truth we do not play media games with sony... the pudding is in the mix with regards to how powerful said box really is. And credibility is out the window with sony. The games and devotion that xbox has with the one. Is even more a driving force then with windows. .. the games will speak for them selves. The xbox one is extremely powerful and it really does pack the graphics raw performance of the high end pc markets.... And it is more powerful then 1.85tf .. the people why think it is
1.2/3 are fooling the selves. I expect a few well known forums to start putting out the trash.... Hotchips will show enough to prove that sony have lied...

w2wapu + dgpu 680gtx level gains...:) and a new designed ddr3 hsa+ gcn2.0 + :)

Misterx: Oh man! Glad to see you ok!
There is tons of questions on why MS allowed that PR dissaster to happen...
Also does 3.2Tf PS4 starsha still in the works?

/end of chat so far/

Misterx: In other words Xbox One specs have not changed since Febrary 2013(APU is a system SoC that VGleaked and dGPU is application SoC - 2x8950 level GPUs tapped together) and Xbox One is a 5TF paper beast with optimisation and other new tech will equal to PCs 5TFx2=10TF. Here is a link about what w2w is about http://misterxmedia.livejournal.com/114613.html?thread=1524661. Some pictures from the link:





mistercteam: i already explained about W2W several days ago

it is APU + DGPU

W2W = wafer 2 wafer, in stacking

Wafer:
1st layer wafer imagine as APU like Vgleak (include shape & move engine)
2nd layer wafer => dGPU
3rd Layer xx MB of eSRAM (the quantity of it will be > 32MB)

in reality it could be > 3 layer
above is simplified stacking scenario

Misterx: also i'll post some great feedback from GamesCon closed doors presentations.Thanks to imperialagent and mistercteam for this findings

Ryse

Me and my collegeau went into the little room where they had two HDTVs. One showed the protagonist in a test level and as soon as i saw it..i told my collegeau...dude....turn around and just look at this thing, just look at it. It had Marius standing in a field of grass, every grass piece moved in the wind and the colours were vibrant as hell and beautiful. The environment looked like a next-gen Oblivion, with the awesome colours and grass fields. They had this test map to show off the improved combat and also how enemies don't just wait around to attack you(like in Assassins creed where they just await their turn) but will actually swarm and corner you. Bit like Batman AA and AC, they don't just stand around and waste time.

In this whole presentation we didn't see a single QTE, which is good news. They showed some spear throwing, Marius impaling enemies into obstacles and so on. They showed decapitations of arms and i asked if there will be parts where you can behead folks...cause i like gore in games like these. They said there will be some parts with that. You don't necessarily need to kill folks with executions at all. I also asked if this is just straight up hack and slash or if there will be exploration and climbing too. The guy said there will be plenty of climbing and exploration. And to show that off they showed us a new location, which basically was another test map but graphically just blew me the hell away. It looked a bit like a forest location, dead bodies impaled into objects, beautiful colours, lighting, no grainy shadows, awesome water effects and just insanely pretty.

They gave a bit of info on multiplayer which is basically gladiators in the roman colleseum. There will be death traps and expect a lot of user generated content. There will be a multiplayer progression system, customizing of your character. Purchase items with ingame currence or real. There's a day/night cycle (not sure if for SP too) and beautiful weather effects.

For me and my collegeau without a doubt the best looking next-gen game so far. I honestly did not expect it at all. Best of all...no PC's in sight....only thing in sight was the X1 console with the power light on, and the X1 controller. I asked the dev if these amazing looking test levels will be in the game itself too, similar levels and they responded with....''even better''. They also said that they are currently not yet finished with the graphics cause..get this....they want it to look even prettier!

Ryse is my number one of GC, simple as that. If they truly have exploration, climbing etc in this one with the awesome combat and not just hack and slash...this will be a winner.

There were a few more games talked about find the rest here if you want (the Dying Light one's worth a read) -

http://www.vg247.com/forum/topic.php?id=39226&page=1#post-84646

also while I'm at it a journalist there did a similar piece (was also very, very favourable) -

http://www.vg247.com/2013/08/23/xbox-one-gamescom-creativity-the-cloud-something-about-titans/


mistercteam continues this journo post: Dying Light (Remember at first he thinks playing the PC,it is actually X1 build when the developer told him)

His impression
I didn't know this beforehand and automatically thought this was running off PC. But when i asked ''About the next-gen consoles...how do they look and run compared to this?'' and then he said that i actually had been playing the X1 build. He also said that they prefer the X1 as a console over the PS4.

Lighting was amazing, lovely details and when it becomes nighttime, it truly gets scary cause these crazies follow you all around and they can climb. Combat is a whole lot better than DI and there's no the ability to slide and then attack with a kick. I was very surprised that it truly was X1, cause i simply didn't expect it. Performance was great and the graphics simply damn impressive.


mistercteam analysis:
Remember when unboxing video M Nelson said this is the first 20 Final retail X1 World wide

It means that the 100-200 or more at SDCC and gamescom is actually still X1 console alpha/beta version before the upgrade.

It means on Games that so demanded like BF4 & COD Ghost and others
that need to show the campaign they need the final retail unit
but probably because it is not yet ready in quantity they showed using
PC devkit (PC specced X1)

about Ryse:
Also why they showed the same sp campaign and multiplayer Ryse
the part that probably dont demanded so much
the Newer build of Ryse are played behind closed door on final retaul
the real X1 !!!

The behind close door version is the Parasite79 leaked info
it is so inline, it is the one that running on final retail X1

I Bet the NDA lifted 21 Sept, is coincidence too with
the retail unit and final devkit more and more in quantity

also with AMD ready to show some info about GCN 2.0 and VI more openly
PS4 gamescone also using PCs


WTF is that shit?! Seriously! Where does it come from?!