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Frogger on 25 August 2013
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Scoobes said:
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errorpwns said:

From the sounds of it you implied Sony can sell millions of consoles without a massive hit. Which is entirely incorrect. Name one console they've sold that didn't have some kind of huge seller on it? The PS3 was sluggish until a price drop and games like Uncharted started coming onto it attracting gamers. Same with Little Big Planet. The PS2 sold really well, but it also had a huge number of hit games released that boosted its sales. The PS1 was similar. Final fantasy was a big seller as well as GT and Crash Bandicoot and Metal Gear. Add in various JRPGS and bam. The PSP sold well due to Monster Hunter and a few other Japanese hits. 

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First, Little Big Planet didn't help push anything. It was a cute IP that sold well, but most people who bought it already owned a PS3. Uncharted is different, but no matter how you slice it, one series that maxes 6m isn't the reason any console succeeds. Especially when that's the best you've got. None of those are "huge sellers." The PS2 had a dominace over the market. It had a NES situation. It was abnormal. That's why it could depend on those 3rd party exclusives. Those are all multiplats now. No more FF, Crash Bandicoot, Metal Gear, or GTA exclusives ever. And again, those were all due to multimedia sales. Not Final Fantasy. Not any things. Those helped and those drove momentum, but if Sony released the PS1 without a CD player, there would be no playstation today. The PSP did NOT sell because of Monster Hunter. Is that a joke!?

In regards to this topic though, those are mostly third party games that used to be exclusive. Now that they aren't, they don't sell well enough for Sony to depend on them. Sony would only be able to drive consoles with it's new IP's that sell like shit.

People like to brag about how Sony makes so many new IPs. When only two of your new IP's could reach 5m, you have absolutely nothing to brag about.

You seriously think the Playstation console sold solely on multimedia features and not on the ridiculously huge games catalogues they built?

You realise PS3 sales picked up when Sony stopped marketing it as a multimedia hub and started emphasising the video games. Consumers buy games consoles predominantly to play games. The multimedia features are simply an added bonus and aid in value proposition.


Never said it told soley on multimedia. I said that it sold mostly on multimedia, which it did. Which is why it survived almost two and a half years of poor ports, and which is why it even barely caught up to the 360's lifetime sales. That's irrefutable. The attach rate and software sales of it's games prove it. Comepare Wii software sales to the PS1. Both sold more than 100m. The Wii demolishes it in software sales. Compare the the DS the PS2. Both 150m+ consoles sold. The DS creams the PS2 in software sales. Compare the PS3 to the 360. Both sold 80m+ consoles. 360 creamed the PS3 in soft ware sales. That's because a lot of people didn't buy games for the things. Maybe a few for the kids. Everything else was movies. Look at the PSP software sales. Why wasn't the PSP Go a hit? It did everything infinitely better than the PSP. Because by that time the iphone was out and there was no "portable DVD player" spin it could use to sell. It had to sell as only a gaming console, and it flopped. The PS3 had to stand for a long time as only a game console because it was too expensive for a lot of people, and once the price dropped down, people bought the thing, and didn't buy games. Why? Because a large amount of people bought Sony consoles for their multimedia. It's not like that anymore, and that will cost them 10's of millions of console sales. It's why the Vita will fail, why the PS4 will struggle once it's out of the gate, and why if Sony didn't have Gran Turismo, the PS4 would fail sooner.

It's a good console that caters to a specific and tiny "hardcore" audience, and without GT and DVD4KBlu-ray multibedia selling point to buffer it's sales, you'd see the console Vita out. Same situation. No GT. No new multimedia. No sale.

Raider84 said:

No offense, but... You are by far the most delusional human being I have ever encountered. You are spouting off your ridiculously misinformed opinion, and you have convinced yourself it is fact. I am truly astonished. You can't be serious? Is this really how you think? Are you 12? How do you make it through the day.... wow... it would suck to be you. 

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Lol, cute. You call my facts that are completely backed by hard numbers opinions, yet you can't prove anything I've said wrong. Go on. Fail to prove that I'm wrong like the other before you. I'll even let you ignore the Vita situation. I'm delisional? The Vita needs more games? Lol, okay. Have a nice day.