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Raider84 on 25 August 2013
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spemanig said:
pokoko said:
spemanig said:


Three things wrong with that. First, the question was who would sell more and if they could servive without their current IPs. Nintendo can. Sony can't. No company can servive when their best selling IP hit only 6m. Second, you imply that starting a craze some how takes away from the quality of the game, when in fact, the quality of the game is what started the craze. Wrong. Three, you imply that casual games are lesser games. Wrong. People still play Wii Sports today. People love Wii Sports today. Most people have never heard of Uncharted.

Nintendo wins hands down. If they couldn't have the IP names, they'd simply make new IPs to fit the high quality games that they were missing. And they'd sell exactly like they do now and be used for the next 30 years. That's what they do.

Sony has Gran Turismo.

Dude, haha, what the hell are you talking about?  I implied that starting a craze takes away from the quality of a game or that casual games are lesser games?  No, I did not imply, you inferred.  Learn the difference.  Seriously.

Look, let me explain this to you, and why you're proving that Sony would do just fine without depending on established IP.  You're saying that Sony doesn't have any massive hits--yet their consoles still sell well and on a consistant basis.  Much more so than Nintendo or Microsoft, Sony has jumped to new IP with each new console while leaving behind previous IP.  That is to say, the reason Sony consoles perform well is that they're able to keep producing new IP that sell the consoles.  Playstation fans, in general, aren't buying a Playstation for the same IP, they're buying them because of the variety and number of IP.

I think it's quite obvious that Playstation would do just fine if they had to leave their current IP behind, as they're constantly producing new IP, anyway.  You've helped to prove that the brand is not dependent on any one IP and thus wouldn't be all that hurt with the loss.

Understand now?

Innnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnncorrrect!

Sony consoles survive because of two things. New media services and Gran Turismo. That's it. Not the games. Not the "variety." Built in CD player when CD players were new and too expensive (PS), built in DVD player when DVD players were new and too expensive (PS2), built in Blu-ray player when Blu-ray players were new and too expensive (PS3), and portable DVD multimedia device when they didn't even exist yet (PSP). The proof is in the PS3, the PSP Go, and the Vita. People cared WAY less about the PS3 because it wasn't a cheaper alternative. Once it was, people bought it. And didn't buy games. PSP Go failed because by that time, the iphone was out did every media thing the PSP did, but better, smaller, with cheaper games, and it had a phone built into it. No one bought it. The ones who did didn't buy games. The Vita is failing because right now, the iphone is out and does every media thing the Vita does, but better, smaller, with cheaper games, and it has a phone built into it. No one is buying it. The ones who do are STRUGGLING to buy enough games for even one title to hit 1m sales after almost 2 years.

And I GUARANTEE in one year of the PS4 coming out, it will be in a far more dire position than people think now, because everyone already has a place to watch netflix, hulu, blu-ray, DVD, etc. It's 2013. Sony can only depend on games this time, and it's last 3 attempts, especially it's first true attempt the Vita, were complete financial disasters.

Sony can not servive on their new IP's alone. They barely do now. It's thanks to Gran Turismo that they do. A racing sim. A racing sim that, if ended, would have it's sales and fans shift to any of the other dozen quality and fantastic racing sims before Sony could even think to create another one.

So again, you are wrong. Understand now?

No offense, but... You are by far the most delusional human being I have ever encountered. You are spouting off your ridiculously misinformed opinion, and you have convinced yourself it is fact. I am truly astonished. You can't be serious? Is this really how you think? Are you 12? How do you make it through the day.... wow... it would suck to be you. 

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