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Machiavellian on 24 August 2013
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badgenome said:

Machiavellian said:

My major problem is that there is a lot of unknowns but you are quick to call the developers liars without knowing anything about their business, deals and how they manage their business.  The complexity of developing games alone require developers to be smart and not take on more than they can handle.  Just because you did not like their answer to a very complex problem doesn't mean they have to lie to you or anyone else.  Instead I am believe that Jason and Vince, veterans of this industry know what they are doing and will do what they cannot to make sure they are successful.  The thought that EA would make some deal with MS, then come to Vince and Jason and say "We made this deal so you have to live with it" after the stuff they went through with EA before and then Activision, Yeah, I am really not buying that angle.

This is the last time I'm explaining it to you because I've said it too many times already: I don't believe them because their answers make no sense. Respawn did not have to develop the PS4 version if they couldn't handle it. EA would have outsourced the port. So that's not why. Respawn is making the game for platforms without cloud and dedicated servers. So that's not why, either. I don't care how much they like the cloud, or dedicated servers, or the Xbox controller, or the Xbox logo, or the shape of Steve Ballmer's head. EA's "tactical partnership" with Microsoft is the only reason why there is no day and date release for a PS4 version.

Finally, I never claimed EA did tell them to suck it up, just that as the publisher they could have because unless going Xbox semi-exclusive violated EA's end of the agreement, Respawn had no recourse either way since EA has exclusive publishing rights to their game and thus has them by the balls until the contract is completed.

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Unknowns.  You have no ideal what EA was willing or not willing to do.  You state EA could just outsource the PS4 port but who is to say they wanted to take the risk with a new IP.  Who is to say that Respawn wanted to take the risk with a new IP.  They stated they have PC and 360 experience.  Even for a port, somoeone will have to direct how it goes.  Small team, limited resources.  Its not like every deal is an open check book to EA, thats a bad assumption and even EA doesn't fully fund their EA Partners.  Its one of the reason why they were about to cancel it.  Actually besides Titan fall, EA Partners is suspended as EA concentrate on their internal projects.

As far as the cloud thing goes, here is a quote from Respawn on the subject.  I will post the link again just in case you missed something

"However, the Xbox Live cloud isn't simply a super-sized cluster of dedicated servers - Microsoft's infrastructure and global presence give it a distinct advantage. "We can upload new programs for them to run and they handle the deployment for us. And they'll host our game servers for other platforms, too!"."

http://www.oxm.co.uk/56981/respawn-on-titanfall-microsoft-wont-nickel-and-dime-devs-with-xbox-ones-cloud-support/

So it appears that MS server can and will be used for other platforms besides just the X1.  I am sure there will  be advantages being hosted on the X1 because of the cloud compute stuff but just general hosting can be done for any platform.

As to the last bolded point.  I am telling you if Respawn only wanted to go one platform then they probably have the capability to do so.  Your statement make it seem like Respawn cannot go to MS and say, we only do a Xbox game and you shorten our deal with EA.  It clearly shows within the link I posted, they went to MS and Sony and MS was the one who came back with want they asked for.

As stated, way to many knowns to call anyone a liar without any understanding of the deal in place between EA and Respawn.  What it sounds like is MS showed interest.  They gave Respawn exactly what they were looking for with no strings and MS was rewarded with a year exclusive for their efforts.

So what doesn't make sense to you is all cool, but what I am saying is that you need to come more correct than "It doesn't make sense to me" without any proof to back up your opinion.

But then again I am probaly wasting my time.  Thats want you get in forums.  People making statements without any proof. Calling developers all types of names because they did not bring a game or feature to their platform.  Its that entitlement mentality gamers have.  Gamers forget that making games is still a business and developers need to be careful how they run their business.