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the-pi-guy said:
Kaizar said:
the-pi-guy said:
Kaizar said:

Nintendo hasn't officially release any specs for the 3DS, but the ones that seem probable suggest a dual-core Arm11 MPcore.  

 Why do you want 3D on the vita so much?    Yes 3D is very popular, but it's nowhere near anything that's going to move a lot of units and it's also not something that's likely to happen either.  

I'm too tired, I'm just gonna leave it at this.

Well, if 3D won't move a lot of units, then I guess nothing will, plus the 3DS already has 3D, so I guess the PS Vita has the problem of being the PSP successor with less wanted software. I'm not surprise since the feature most people were bragging about was 2 joysticks, vs. people bragging about such 3DS features as streetPass & 3D & motion controls & 3D AR, which some people think the 3DS only does 3D AR LOL. Plus there is the 3DS software vs. Vita software, which I saw coming after comparing E3 2010 3DS games to E3 2011 Vita games.


But we know the name of the cores, and there are 4 different names:

Cores

There are four ARM11 cores:

  • ARM1136[4]
  • ARM1156, introduced Thumb2 instructions
  • ARM1176, introduced security extensions[5]
  • ARM11MPcore, introduced multicore support

 

The thing that is keeping a lot of people from getting a psv is the same thing that kept people from getting a psp, high price point and very few mainstream games.  PSP has sold 80 million units.  Compare that to the DS, 150 million units.  I'll give you a hint, people didn't buy a DS because of 3D.  PS2 sold more than 150 million units, it wasn't due to 3d.  3D was possible at the time as well, it just wasn't a big thing.  (Remember the Red and Cyan glasses.)  iPod Touch + iPad + iPhone isn't super successful due to it's 3D capabilities, it's successful because it has mainstream appeal.  These devices don't have built in 3D.   

The PSVita is a great device that no body feels that they need.  If it had awesome software, if it had a game from The Elder Scrolls series(Skyrim/Oblivion)  I would get a Vita a soon as possible.  That would be HUGE to have that on the system.  

I want to get a Vita, but there isn't really any game that I need to have on it.  That's the big problem.  If it had a legitimite Elder Scrolls game, I'd buy a Vita for 350$, let alone 250$.  It has great games for it, just no compelling software.  It doesn't need 3D.  If it had 3D, I think it would be even less likely people would buy it, because of the higher cost, even fewer games.  3D isn't enough on it's own to be purchaseable, people didn't go see Avatar in 3D because it was in 3D.  They watched Avatar in 3D because they like the movie.  3D is just icing on the cake.  

Have you ever gotten a cake just because of the icing?  Even if you absolutely hated the rest of the cake, you said "I like this icing, I'm going to get it even though I like the other cake better?"

BTW Arm A9 is different from Arm 9.  A9 is newer and much faster.  

I know ARM9 is Nintendo and NOT AMD ARM vortex 9. And ARM11 is also newer and much faster but also has a heavy focus on synthesis and/or whatever, which gives it an advantage over all other 1 GHz CPUs with the same number of cores when used on a 1st party device like the 3DS and that's an understatement. But ARM11 Is like a double-edge sword because you can't use it on 3rd party devices at all realistically, if you wanted to use a CPU on a non-Nintendo device, it wouldn't be ARM11.

Anyways, the PSP did much more better at $250 with a smaller amount of gamers to buy a gaming system, and it was also using exclusive memory cards.

I admit it seems with the current knowledge that most people have right now about the GPUs for polygons & shader cores and so fort, that it must be the lack of both features & software that are making up these sales.

Plus everyone I know under age 25 or under age 21 does like the 3D feature and sees it as a big selling point.

And people after seeing most 3D movies will then only see a 3D version of the movie because of the 3D. But you are right about their first 3D movie experience being because of the movie, but after they see 1 movie in 3D they then want to see the other movies in 3D because both the 3D and the movie, but at other times it will only be because of the 3D. And there are way more better examples of 3D then Avatar, for instance:

The Great Gatsby

Star Trek Into Darkness

Any CGI animated movie

Pacific Rim

(Act 1 & act 3 of) R.I.P.D.

The Wolverine (at least every other scene)

Gravity

Life of Pi

And there are so many more 3D movies I can mention, that makes avatar an obsolete example.

Plus 3D doesn't increase the cost of a game, because you just need z-depth which is only a few extra lines of code (look at the GameCube games which all have z-depth, which means you can convert 2D to 3D when playing GameCube games, but don't try is with PS2 games because they look like flat pieces of cardboard with space in between when you convert 2D into 3D). It's the hardware that does the real work, and in e case of Nintendo' well Nintendo does all the work for more depth in newly release 3DS games, which is the only reason why new 3rd party games also have way more extreme 3D.

Plus the 3D camera to take 3D photos & videos really do appeal to a lot of people as another reason to get a 3DS which speeds up sales...as well as increase life time sale by a fair amount for overall lifetime sales.

The ability to stream Netflix & Hulu Plus 3D streaming videos (when they get them, because there are way too many 3D movies each year and growing), and to purchase full 3D movies which this one thing is coming in the next 12 months, will increase overall audience making the sales more greater since some people will buy it just for that features even if it was priced at $250, especially buy the 3DS XL for these features only. And the glasses-free 3D makes a big difference to a lot of people who want 3D, but only if it's glasses-free (there are surprisingly so many people like this).

So the 3D feature seems like its going to be big all by itself once the full 3D Movies come in any form to watch on the 3DS. And I know quite a bit of people who only bought the Nintendo 3DS to take 3D photos and/or record 3D videos only. And I'm in Los Angeles County which has a gigantic population within itself and i constantly travel from santa monica to Westwood to century city to slauson swapmeet to Downtown LA to MacArthur park to South Central to Korean town and so fort for purchasing certain things, and other certain things at a great discount like particular YugiOh cards and pretty cheap at that...as well as actually good looking cloths that are the opposite of what is sold at the GAP & Old Navy, because the gap & old navy sells ugly cloths, LOL but true.