Do you want the Vita to eventually do better than the 3DS?

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jake_the_fake1 said:

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They didn't necessarily want an expensive portable home console either.

no your right, they just wanted an expensive leapfrog.

Sarcasm aside, the PSvita and 3DS launched at the same price, someone who bought a 3DS at launch can not then turn around and say the PSvita is expensive, because if the PSvita is expensive for all that it is, then what does that make the launch 3DS, a rip off?

Also you make it seem that having a portable home console is a bad thing, as if no one would want to play home console games on the go, and yet the 3DS and WiiU share almost identical first party library. So is this a bad thing? hell no, there is nothing wrong with having portable versions of home console games. There are gamers who predominantly game on home console and a little on handhelds, and there are others who game predominantly on handhelds and a little on home consoles, so having similar games on both benifits both type of gamers, it's a win-win for all. But if you think otherwise, I suppose that is your prerogative.

At launch, the 3DS was a rip-off, yes. Vita, however, is still a ripoff after over a year and a half on the market.

Gamers in general don't want console gaming on the go; the PSP and Vita were designed around this concept and haven't managed to be as successful as their competitors which focussed  on making games designed around a handheld, on-the-go experience.

3DS and Wii U do not share an identical library. Nintendo makes their console and handheld games differently, and that's why their handhelds are successful.

As for the OS, the graphics, all that's just icing; the cake is the games, and 3DS has the Vita handily beat there.

People don't buy Nintendo handhelds simply because they are Nintendo, they buy them they have cultivated a reputation for top-notch games you can't play elsewhere.

I disagree, for the user experience and hardware you get it's worth the money. Now would I like to have bought one cheaper, for sure, but that goes for every product I've pruchased. I would agree that the memory cards are a rip off.

You say that in general people don't want console gameing on the go, and yet some of the most popular and most wanted games on 3DS are home console games, you have:-

-New super mario bros series - this has been on the Wii, DS, 3DS, and WiiU - same gameplay, same art style, same charm, new level here and there but fundementally they are the same, yet they do well on either handheld or home console despite the series starting from on a home console.

-Super Mario 3D Land on the 3DS is fundamentally the same as Super Mario 3D World on the WiiU, again same gameplay, same art style, same charm, new level here and there some slight gameplay changes. This perticular series started on the 3DS but it will do just fine on the WiiU.

-Super smash bros - this is a series that was born on the home console for larger screens, and yet here we are with Nintendo set to release a 3DS versions, again samse gameplay, samse charm, with slightly altered graphics to better suit the smaller screens, still their fundamentlly the same games with maybe some slight differences.

-Mario Kart - Again a series born on the home console, and does extemely well on the handheld, and next year the WiiU version will be coming out. Both versions are fundementally the same game with the same gameplay, same art style, and same charm, maybe with more tracks and racing characters but again fundamentally the same game.

-Mario party - A series born on the home console, now too coming to the handheld, and again just like the above games, these two will be fundamentally the same with perhaps a slight change here or there but essentially the same gameplay, same art style and same charm.

-Monster Hunter - a series born on the home console but hit it big on the handheld, now it's both on home console and handheld, both are fundementally the same perhaps with new weapons and armour and areas to explore.

Again, there is nothing wrong with having a home console games on a partable as long as they are well made and fun.

Just to clarify I am not advocating dumping direct console ports to handhelds, rather, having home console games that are made specifically for the handheld device, just like how Uncharted golden abyss, AC3: Liberation, and Killzone mercenary are new games based off a home console game with that home console game feel but on the go, a new experiance from an old familiour, it's what Nintendo does, so I see no issue with Sony doing the same, and it seems to be that this is what enough people actually want.

I agree that most people don't just buy Nintendo because Nintendo, I'm sure there are some, but people do buy Nintendo for Nintendo games, this is clearly seen when looking at the N64, Wii and WiiU. It just so happens that competition has always been weak on the handheld front, something Nintendo has been good at with it's strong presence and it's Nintendo games, so by default Nintendo inherited the 3rd and their games, so I wouldn't say Nintendo 'cultivates' 3rd party, because if this was true we would see the same 3rd party presence on the WiiU. It's clear to me that if there was a stronger handheld console with the sales comparible to the 3DS, then we could indeed see parity of games like we saw with the PS3 and 360. I do however agree with you that Nintendo have cultivated a reputation for top-notch Nintendo games you can't play elsewhere.

Pikmin 3, Nintendoland, Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze, X, all designed very clearly for a big screen experience.

Mario & Luigi, Kid Icarus, Pokemon, Animal Crossing, etc, clearly designed for a small screen. Plus, the 3DS versions of franhcises like  Mario Kart are similarly simplified for their handheld iterations, made smmaller and more "intimate", like the difference between TV and movies.