How much money will Sony and Microsoft lose on each console at launch

[the2real4mafol]

chapset said:

the2real4mafol said:
I don't see Microsoft making a loss. There's no way Kinect cost £80 to make, it's only a camera sensor. And it's just so expensive.

PS4 will make a small loss of like £20 or so i think because of the processor. Something, Xbox One's higher price can cover. Just.

Well there was a news saying that kinect cost as much as the X1 to make

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-07-15-kinect-costs-almost-as-much-as-xbox-one-to-make-says-dev

I find that hard to believe when the original kinect was so cheap to make. There don't seem to be a great deal difference between the 2 versions  

~http://uk.gamespot.com/news/kinect-cost-56-to-make-report-6283956