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oniyide on 01 August 2013
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RolStoppable said:
NintendoPie said:

If I'm drawing correct conclusions, it seems you think their line-up of games this Holiday won't work. Correct?

They've definitely come too late, and may be less of an impact because of that, but I think they'll do something. Though a jump back like the 3DS had doesn't seem possible. Even with those games.

Edit: I also think that maybe Nintendo feels as though their Holiday line up will make up for these bad 160k shipment moments. So they are most likely in denial, I agree.

The lineup won't change the long term fortunes of the Wii U, but the console will see a significant bump during the holiday quarter. The philosophy and strategy behind the Wii U is bad and the only way it could have worked (at least somewhat) is if third parties were supporting the system through its entire lifecycle.

In a way the Wii U seems like a concept that happydolphin came up with. The underlying premise is to combine red ocean and blue ocean strategies, but that's not possible, because these two things are mutually exclusive. Yet Nintendo attempted it anyway.

You know what the root cause of Nintendo's problems is? The belief that the Wii was a failure. That's what they believe, hence why they abandoned it so quickly. But what's worse is that they also believe that the GameCube only failed because of timing, branding and marketing. So Nintendo makes GameCube 2.0 and calls it the Wii U (Gamepad is the evolution of the GC-GBA connectivity), because the only good thing about the Wii to them was its strong brand. But at some point Nintendo has to realize how stupid they have become. That point should have been E3 where Iwata pointed out things like "Donkey Kong has fur.", "Bayonetta has new hair." and other ridiculous non-selling points. That's how bad the Wii U is, because about the only thing Nintendo can come up with boils down to "better graphics than the Wii".

As long as Nintendo's defintions for failure and success are so screwed up, they will create more failures. Maybe the failure of the Wii U gives them a much needed reality check, but it's just as possible that they will refuse to change their minds.

@bolded 1 alot of people Ninty included believe that 3rd parties would support it. 

@bolded 2 Why are they not possible? PS2 is the best selling home console by a mile, not even WIi was able to get near it in the end. The library consisted of mostly red ocean type games. Was the red ocean able to put up those kinds of numbers? Or was it a blue ocean machine? maybe the first 2 years when people wanted a cheap DVD player but that selling point went away when DVD player prices dropped. Did it start as one thing and became something else.