This Is Why You Should Have A PSVita

[Michael-5]

brendude13 said:

Michael-5 said:

Watch the review by Gametrailers. Resident Evil Revelations was designed to be played on a small screen. On a large screen, you see imperfections, and a lack of attention to detail. Facial animations are rigid on a large screen, but on a small screen they are not. Also, on consoles, you loose the benefit of the second screen. The Wii U version is suppose to resolve this, but the lack of detail, and upscaling in the environment are obvious in the console version.

A lot of games are designed differently when made for handhelds then consoles, simple.

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Nope, not a single HD remake on Vita has me interested. Tales of the Abyss is an exception because it's one of the few PS2 games which I don't own, and haven't beaten.

I'm not cheap, I just prefer owning retail copies of games. Currently I'm picking up expensive PS1/PS2, and Sega CD games, despite them being available on PSN for much less. It's kind of like a picture, if it's a picture I really like, I will print it and keep it in a physical photo alumn.

You are right in one way though. I admit, I don't pay attention to upcoming PSV games, and I often forget that it still has a chance for some. Tearaway, I know about, but it's not the type of game I like, so I pass it off. As for Ragnarok Odyssey, that game has a lot of bad reviews, I think the sequel should be below the cutoff unless it proves otherwise, that's why I don't count it

Freedom Wars could go either way.

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Also Ports, plural, aren't a good investement for me on the 3DS. It's a single game, I specifically am interested in. I have no plans to buy Ocarina of Time, or any other port. Hence this is why I didn't use it as an arguement, but in a standalone comment referencing why I personally am interested in the 3DS.

Stop trying to attack me at any given moment, If I didn't own a 3DS I can always play the game on PS2, that's why I would never count it in a list of reasons to buy a 3DS over a Vita.

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As for Persona, that's a reason for someone like you to buy the Vita. Admittingly, that's a reason why many people will buy a Vita. It's not like I didn't appreciate FF Tactics or Lunar for the PSP. In fact, Lunar releasing for the PSP got me into the franchise, and I recently bought Lunar 2 for Sega CD.

However for people who are in general not interested in ports/remakes, I think PSV is a waste. I don't think most Persona 4 players will go out and buy a Vita for the enhanced experience, not unless they are really really big fans, and in that case Vita has something for them.

Anyway I did mention, PSV is a good console, just not a good system. Being able to play PS1 games is amazing, but that's a feature of PSN and not exclusive to PSV. You don't specifically need a Vita to take advantage of this, but regardless, Vita has it, and it's a good console. Just as a unique system, it doesn't offer much IMO.

This is akin to many peoples perspectives of the X-Box 360. In reality, it's a damn great console, it can play 90% of the games available on PS3, and then some exclusives. However as a system, it's only good because while there are some great exclusives, I would only advise people to purchase the console if those exclusives are enough to warrenty the buy.

So if I don't own a Vita, at this moment in time, I'm really not missing out on much.

-Yes, I can't play PS3 games portably, but my PSP, DS, and soon 3DS more then suffice for games I can play portably. It's not like I ran out of handheld games and desperatly need something, or one specific game just sucks on the PS3, but is beautiful on the Vita.

-Yes I can play PS1 classics, but technically I could mod my PSP to do that too, and since I own most of the games I want to play on PS1, this isn't illegal here in Canada.

So what am I missing out on? Uncharted and Killzone? Okay, well like I said I'll get a Vita end of life, just to pick up these gems. Why spend $250 now and play these games now, when I can spend less later, and play other handhelds, better rated handhelds, now?

Don't hate me for having a different opinion. You're free to dislike the 3DS. The only time I defended the 3DS here was when someone said it's "just Mario, Pokemon, and Zelda" and then I pointed out a good dozen highly rated games which aren't Mario, Pokemon, or Zelda. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, and my opinion isn't factually incorrect, so why argue with me?

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P.S. Thanks for pointing out Freedom Wars, Ys, and Tearaway.  In the case of the last 2, I did omit them because I forgot about them, since they aren't my type of games. Had they been "my type of game" and I ommited them, then my negative opinion on Vita would have been invalid, and you would have raised a good point.

P.P.S. Man....I wrote too much hear, I need to condense. If MUGEN were here, he would be at my throat, PSV, long responses, and I disagree with him. If you quote me again, I'll keep it short, sorry.

Thanks for being more reasonable in your reply, I was pretty provocative in parts.

I still disagree about Revelations on the 3DS being the definitive version, but even if it was, it's still just a multiplatform game you could play on another system right? Just like you can play Persona 4 on the PS2, despite not being anywhere near the definitive version.

It just ticked me off when you came in this thread and started harshly criticising the Vita and then started talking up the 3DS. The only reason I replied to you was because you slammed the Vita for having barely anything but HD ports and multiplatform games and then mentioned 3 games which were the reason you were more interested in buying a 3DS for, 2 of which were multiplatform or HD ports. It's complete double standards. You also just seemed far too cynical and pessimistic about the Vita, writing the system off for its digital only backwards compatibility and severely underestimating the amount of JRPGs and new games coming to the system.

I don't dislike the 3DS, I just think people are seriously over-exaggerating the quality of its games library and far too often use it to attack the Vita. You say the Vita is a waste for people with no interest in ports or HD remakes, and I agree with that to some extent, the system does become a lot less desirable if you have no interest in playing HD remakes or multiplatform games. I love HD remakes and a lot of my most anticipated games for the Vita are HD remakes. However, I also think the 3DS is a waste for people who have no interest in Nintendo's 1st party games or would much rather play similar entries on home consoles or older consoles, like me.

Enough about 3DS games vs Vita games though. I'm just sick of people not understanding why some people don't automatically love everything that their preferred company's 1st party devs put out (that's not just targetted at Nintendo fans). People have already pointed out through Metacritic ratings that the two systems match up quite nicely, and obviously people are going to lean more towards either Nintendo and Sony and are going to become more interested in the niche games after they've purchased the system.

I believe Persona 4: Golden has already sealed the deal for a lot of original Persona 4 players who were interested in the Vita, it's a niche JRPG and yet it's the 4th best selling game on the system. That's got to mean something. (Yea, Vita has very little else to offer LOL .....for now) Even for first time players, the PS2 version will just not match up.

It kinda seems like you've already decided that you don't want to buy a Vita, and now you're trying to justify that by stating all the things you could live without. I'm pretty sure if you bought the system, it'd take up a lot more time than you'd expect it to, and you'd be playing those PSP and PS3 multiplatform games on it. Don't worry, I'm guilty of it too.

EDIT: Shit, I write too much too.

LOL, I guess you're right about Resident Evil. I guess my view on DS is a bit biased in this regard because I've wanted a 3DS since before they announced a console port. I just didn't like the XL colour options (but now NA is getting solid black).

LOL, yea sorry for comparing Vita to 3DS. I wasn't trying to make 3DS look like a better system, just show how many more games 3DS has over Vita in comparision, so you can see why I am disappointed with Vita. Yea PSP started pretty weak too, but that's largely because Sony was new onto the handheld scene. With Vita, there should have already been some great JRPG's, but I guess Ys is releasing soon.

As for mentioning 2 ports on 3DS, I just wanted to mention something which I am personally interested in, that isn't Nintendo, for people like you. I should have probably mentioned Bavery Default and Dragon Quest VII (if it's localized) instead. To an extent I agree with you that 3DS isn't too appealing yet for people not interested in Nintendo 1st party games (but honestly, not even Fire Emblem?). I think in time 3DS will pick up a great 3rd party library, just like DS said, but on the same note one could argue that Vita will get the support (specifically Japanese) that PSP got. I personally think a lot of the support has migrated to the 3DS (like Monster Hunter), so Vita will never have as many exclusive games as PSP, that's the point I wanted to get across.

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I am going to buy a Vita BTW, just not anytime soon. I bought my PSP last year, and I have a backlog of about 20 great games now, plus maybe 15 more DS games. I might buy a Black 3DS XL this year, and play some old DS games on the larger screen, and continue playing PSP games for now.

It's just with so much competition, and so many great older PSP/DS, and current 3DS games, I don't have any interest in spending $250 on a handheld which really only has 1 or 2 games which I am interested in ATM. That will likely change, DS and PSP got the bulk of their higher quality games after being on the market for 3-7 years, and 3DS/Vita are only now 3 and 2 years old.

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My only points in all this were that because almost of the games in the OP were sub-HD PS3 ports, that I'm not interested in the Vita. Especially because in general Vita fans either talk about these games, or Persona instead of the exclusives, which I think in general, are only good, not great.

Also I don't think Vita will see as great exclusives PSP saw, I think a lot of the game support has moved from Sony to Nintendo. For these two reasons I'm disappointed in the Vita (in comparision to my PSP).

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Our conclusions are a bit funny though. 3DS doesn't offer much to people not interested in Nintendo games (but I think Fire Emblem should be on everyones list), and Vita doesn't offer much to people not interested in ports/remakes (but you think Persona should be on peoples lists).