MDMAlliance said:
Otakumegane said:
MDMAlliance said:
I think the problem here is that you want to focus on exploration on a game that isn't about that. The developers are fully aware of the situation, the game wasn't made to just be where you are supposed to freely explore. There are a good bit of things to explore, but it isn't the focus of a game. Like someone else pointed out, it seems like you want an adventure game rather than an RPG.
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Just because I want some adventuring elements in my JRPG doesn't mean I want adventure game.
I like my JRPG tactical combat systems and story telling, just I want to have the choice to define a world that I like by really looking at it. I think the way JRPGs approach battles is "you choose when to run". In a lot of WRPGs nowadays it's "you choose when to fight".
If the developers really didn't want me to explore the game, then why make fully explorable maps and 3D eviornments? If that truly was the case, then they should have made in strictly linear in progreassion like in Fire Emblem and not make us have to explore and find certain points on the map to continue.
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To me, it seems like you're thinking really black and white with this. Exploration is A focus in the game, but it is NOT the MAIN focus. Which is WHY SMTIV is in an inbetween with JRPG's. A lot of JRPG's you just get into random encounters that you cannot even escape entering. SMTIV lets you see the demons on the environments and effectively you can avoid them, even in the world map (believe it or not, there's a way). However, you of course HAVE to get into battles eventually as you cannot progress that way. The battle mechanics are the MAIN focus of the game, so they obviously make it where it would be best NOT to always avoid your fights. Also, you may not have noticed it but almost every single demon on the map moves slower than you do. SMTIV is really a good example of the place in between with JRPG's, while Final Fantasy is on one end of the spectrum and Super Paper Mario is on the other end (the main focus of that game would be a combination of narrative and exploring the environments).
However, if you're really just looking for exploring environments, adventure games are really what suits that the best.
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Not all the time I want to explore a world, just when I get that itch after playing for a long time.
Xenoblade and TWEWY let you switch between progression and exploration near seamlessly, and it's not like that hampered the battle system or anything like that.
It really is an issue of "why can't we have both?" Super Paper Mario is a bad example of when too much world hopping and 3D moving hampered the depth of combat.
It's like the developer gave me tools that I could work with, (impressive setting and enviornments) but also restricted my use of them. I think part of why WRPGs are so popular these days is the freedom they give you to work with the tools you have. A lot of JRPGs currently conflict in the sense as they provide but do not encourage their use.
It's just a bit unsettling and I feel I'm not getting as much out of the game as I could. It's not like I have this problem when playing a more linear game like a VN or FE because I work within the tools they give and I can use them well. Exploration in SMTIV is just an example of "I have this tool, but why is it so heavy and hard to use?" The city and the environments are clearly meant to be explored with hidden relics and items. I just wish that stopping me every 30 steps just for me to hit the flee button didn't need discourage me from spending time finding them.
