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Carl2291 said:

No no no no no.

The example was about reaching goals. The proof for this is that it was attached to the definition that was about reaching goals. The woman never hit the career goal she set herself, though she still has a career. The Wii U has never hit a sales goal Nintendo set for it, though it is still selling.

If youre okay to call the woman a failure because she didnt meet her career goal, then its more than okay to call the Wii U a failure because it hasnt reached 1 single sales goal.

Her goal wasn't to have a career. Her goal was to be an actress. She failed at being an actress, she failed. As an actress, she is a failure.

Same principle here. That's why I mentioned scope. The U is, as a console, by definition a product with the goal of making money and offering an accepted proposal. If it isn't well received, then it is a failure. If it fails to sell in its first year, it is yet not a failure, per console scope. Until the product is doomed to fail as a console, over its lifetime, it can't be called a failure. It can be said that it is in a bad trajectory, that it could become a failure, that it might fail, that it is failing atm, but it can't be called a failure. Per scope. Not yet.

Yeah?