50 rules for dads of daughters

[UncleScrooge]

happydolphin said:

@Spurge. That's true. It's tough and beautiful at the same time. I can understand you a bit, even if I'm not a dad.

Kowen, this one time I was in a thread talking about purity before marriage. This one poster was boasting about the # of cherries he popped. In contrast, looking at the vid you posted and at the tips in the opening post, we can consider those feelings and tips as good. Good for fathers, good for their daughters, and good for society. When boasting about how many cherries you've popped, relatively speaking, isn't that similarly as revolting as pedophilia, in light of those great things?

The reason I had posted that thread was to challenge for example how some people accept sexual promiscuity, the lust of humans and the objectification of people, the same people will revolt at the sound of pedophilia. I found it very inconsistent if the foundation of morality is human dignity and joy.

I wanted to post in your other thread but didn't so I'll do it here: Sexual abuse is always about power. It's about one person having the choice while the other one has to obey. In the case of children they have no idea what sexuality even is. It literally destroys their world because they do not understand what that grown up person is even doing. Even worse: What hurts most abused children the most is that those grown ups talked them into thinking they "liked" it. Grown up victims of child abuse often say things like "i thought I was in love with that person"- it's the most cruel thing you can do to a person: abusing them for your pleasures when they are still too young to even understand it. Child abuse most commonly happens inside a family structure - children get abused by their parents, uncles, close friends of their parents, etc. And it never, never is consensual. 

Have you ever heard of dissociative amnesia? Dissociation in general? The horror a child has to live through is even more terrible than that of a grown up victim. Children need adults to survive. It's a matter of life and death for them. So they have to dissociate the horrors. Some of them even forget their abuse completely because it's just too much for them to incorporate it into their identity. It's literally their whole world falling apart.

As a general rule: If someone (especially the victim) says a certain case of child abuse was "consensual" it is an extremely severe case. 

So to answer your question: Is it strange people think doing the most horrible thing to a child without them being able to defend themselves is terrible? No, I don't think so. Because the other stuff you listed at least *can* be consensual between two (or more) grown up people.