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kitler53 said:
Somini said:

 I have  a feeling that a lot of consumers will look at the two relatively similar systems, and then buy the one that costs $100 less.


that pretty much sums it up. 

...riderz has that sig saying "ps4 is shaped like an eraser for erasing the xbone"  and i feel like its true.  the xbone revealed to the world no longer exists.  i have a feeling a kinect-less sku of the xbone will be coming at a lower price too soon enough.  the ps4 and xbone will be almost identical in every imaginable way except that ps+ is $10 cheaper than live and includes dozens of free games a year while the xbone has tv in.

Since the PS4 will most likely sell a lot better then the PS3, I doubt that PSN+ on the PS4 will ever be as good as it is currently on the PS3.  I'm guessing most of the free games on PSN+ plus on the PS4 will be indie games or enhanced demos like DriveClub+.  Also most people don't pay full retail price for xbox live Gold since its on sale at one place or another pretty much year around.