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Tom3k said:

Michael-5 said:
 

I love replaying old games, but why would you pay $250 for a console, only to buy the game again? Seems redundant, why not just beat the version you already own?

What games on Vita aren't ports? Uncharted, Gravity Rush, Resistance, Unit 13? Not much....

Of course I don't have a Vita, I have a PSP, it's much better. Ignorance? LOL No it's counting, PSV doesn't even have a single exclusive JRPG.. and it's biggest original games are washed down PS3 franchises. PSP had Crisis Core, Jeanne D'Ark, The 3rd Birthday etc. It didn't rely on Grand Theft Auto and God of War, like PSV relies on Uncharted and Killzone.

So tell me, why own a Vita if you already have the ports, and if you have a PS3? All Vita is is a second PS3 that's more limited, but portable. ATM you're paying a lot of money to play the exact same games you own (if your primary reasons are ports and PS3 multiplat games). This to me seems like a waste, and judging from its sales, most agree with me.

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Look, I don't mean to spoil the party, clearly people who like the PSV love it. I'm just giving my 2 cents. The OP gave a list of games, and said "this is why you should have a PSVita." The title clearly is telling me that I should have a PSV, and I'm just saying I don't because the lineup is all ports or downgraded PS3 games.

If someone made a thread saying "You should own a Wii U" then you can go in and say what you like, it's a public forum.

PSP had the exact same problem early in its life too, but then it got some good games. I'm really disappointed in Vita because it  doesn't have well any major unique games coming out. God Eater 2 is also coming out to PSP (at least in Japan), and....then there is nothing.

 

I wouldn't call myself PS "fan", but I've been consistent with PS consoles. I owned a PSP and I've bought several games digitally, I own PS3 and I also bought several PS One classics on it. So I can't say that I got PSV to play those games on it, but I'm glad that I get more value from my previous purchases. Even though I prefer retail copies (I'm a collector), I buy quite a lot of digital games on Vita. So many great sales of PSP, PS One and PSN games. It's hard to say no when you can get them for less than 2,99€. 

If you were a "collector" wouldn't you already own these PSP, and PS1 games? I do.

Anyway... Playing PSP games and PS One games on Vita works remarkably well. Thx to Vita's screen games look great, PSP games that suffered from performance issues (slowdowns) don't have that problems on Vita, and on Vita you can assign controls to 2nd analog stick, so games like Monster Hunter Freedom Unite becames more enjoyable when you actually can rotate camera with 2nd stick... And in "really" old PS One games that didn't feature analog sticks, you can without any issues assign controls to analog stick. (Crash Bandicoot I'm looking at you).

Can do that on PS3, and I would say very few PSP games benefit on PSV. The game isn't being remade, it's the same game with dual analog, so why buy the game again? Seems wasteful

There are many games that aren't ports. To the once you mentioned I can freely add LBP Vita, ModNation Racers, Dynasty Warrior Next, Reality Fighters, Everybody Golf 6, WipeOut 2048, Soul Sacrifice... upcoming Tearaway, Freedom Wars, Toukiden, KZ: Mercenery, God Eater 2...

There are some good games, but not many, and most of the games you mentioned are only average. I may not have played Everybody Golf 6, or Dynasty Warriors Next, but I've played older versions, and I doubt the game has significantly changed.

And NO... PSP is no way better than Vita. How can it be? Vita can do everything it does, does it better and does so much more at same time as well. Why are you so caught up on "exclusive" JRPG's? Don't you see that Japanese have moved to hunting games. Sure I would like to see some exclusive JRPG's, hell I would like to see Tales games localized... but it's still soon in Vita's life... Hell, even the games you mentioned were released Jeanne D'Ark in 2006, Crisis Core in 2007, 3rd BDay in 2010... and PSP was released in 2004/05. And actually PSP did rely on GTA and GT and MGS at least in west. The crowd that enjoys games that start with J in west is more of a niche.

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How is exactly PSV "more limited"? I can play Sly 4, NFS MW, PSABR, MK, Rayman Origins... that offer same experiance on Vita as on PS3, while being able to play them anywhere I want. The only part of the games that gets "adjusted" is the level of visual detail. But for the games that you play on a very vibrant 5'' screen, that really isn't an issue. Vita doesn't need to sell 100 million consoles to be successful, actually with small user base that it now has it's actually doing quite well. And buying Vita so you can enjoy multiplats, is not a bad thing. Can you play your PS3 when you're using public transportation, when you're on plane or vacationing? NO you can't, but I can :P

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Vita is still early in it's life, and I have high hopes for this years GamesCom. And even if GamesCom will be shitty, I'll still look forward to Rayman Legends, Freedom Wars, YS, FF X/X-2, God Eater 2, Toukiden.... and I think that my budget can't handle any more full releases at this time anyway...


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First of all, I want to say great post. You're expressing your opinion, without resorting to name calling, or bashing because my opinion differs. I love debating like this.

1. Why do you buy a console? I buy it for games, and PSP has a lot more, and better games. PSV has yet to recieve 1 JRPG exclusive, and there are currently no plans behind any of the big JRPG studios to make one.

It doesn't matter when the games released, PSP is still better at the moment, but even if you compare it by the games released in the duration it was out, without counting ports/remakes PSP had:

Ape Escape x 2
Armored Core
Coded Arms
DarkStalkers
Death Jr.
Dynasty Warriors
Everybody Golf
Luminies
MedEvil: Dark Resurection
Metal Gear Ac!d
Twisted Metal: Head On (ported to the PS2 3 years later, so it counts)
Untold Legends
Wipeout Pure

Now this isn't much better then Vita, but PSP had a lot of announced games like

Daxter
DBZ: Shin Budokai
Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories
Jeanne D'Arc
Lemmings
Metal Gear Ac!d 2
Monster Hunter Freedom
Monster Kingdom
SOCOM US NAVY Seals Bravo
Spectral Souls
The Legend of Heros: a Tear of Vermillion
Valkyrie Profile Lenneth

and many of them were releasing in fall 2005. Of these games, I would say 6 or 7 and properly good games.

The main reason why Vita is disappointing, is it has almost nothing planned. Killzone, Toukiden and God Eater 2 are the only big projects releasing for the Vita anytime soon. Also Toukiden and God Eater 2 are available on PSP in Japan, and doesn't count if the PSP version gets localized too. So PSV could only had a single properly good game planned. Compare this to PSP now...

2. I said PSV is like a PS3, but more limited, and it is. First of all, isn't PSV's resolution sub 720p? So you're going from HD to non-HD, and in many cases PSV games aren't identical ports to PS3 games. Games like Assassin's Creed III are too big to play on Vita, that's why Vita has Liberation. Batman Arkham Origins is a similar story, PSV and 3DS get downgraded portable versions.

Also I never said playing PS3 multiplats on the go was a bad thing. I just said that for people not interested in that, this system is a waste, which it is IMO.

Some PS3 games are better on Vita too, I did mention that if I owned a Vita I would buy Disgaea 3 & 4 as I feel that genre is better suited on PSV, and the games do offer more features.

3. I never said PSV couldn't redeem itself. My stance has always been "Vita needs to get more games, or Sony should ditch the handheld market." I would much rather see some unique Vita exclusive games, preferably JRPG's because I just feel they are well suited for portable play, then see Vita go bust.
I hope Vita see's some good games get announced at Gamescon. Killzone being the only AAA title planned is a bit disappointing. What do PSV owners have to look forward to other then Disgaea 4? A good system should always have stellar games planned.

 



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