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oniyide said:
MDMAlliance said:

I kind of dislike talking about this topic to gamers because a lot of, if not almost all, gamers are narrow-minded when it comes to games.

They think games should be played a certain way or that "gimmicks" are bad. Games no longer are about having fun and are more of a source of pride for people. PC gamers think they are the superior gamers because they incorrectly think a PC is better than a console and can do anything a console can. This isn't true due to the nature of what sets PCs and consoles apart. Graphics aren't everything. Just being able to use a controller doesn't mean anything. Hooking your PC to a TV doesn't make it a console. More goes into it than that, and when I try to argue my point, PC gamers deny it with just their words, but reality shows otherwise.

What this has to do with the Wii U is that the concept of the Wii U is not a failure, the execution isn't quite a failure but it wasn't as good as it should have been.

The gamepad itself will lend itself to making genres more accessible or making completely new ones. There is more than what a lot of gamers think to what you can do with the gamepad. The fact that it comes with the system means developers don't have to worry about if they don't have one (and the reason other consoles wont do this is because it simply wont sell unless it comes with the device) and I know a lot of gamers just think how it doesn't enhance their ability to play a game. Like how a mouse + keyboard for FPS games is good for gamers because it increases their ability to play, but motion controls are just a gimmick. The thing is that a lot of people enjoy using the motion controls, even if they aren't as precise as the mouse + keyboard. That "gimmick" is a source of fun for people, the true reason for gaming. So I really think gamers have a warped sense of what games should be like.

edit: I should also include that pretty much anyone here is in the minority as well, so I don't think gamers make up most of the market.

well considering that the WII u isnt exactly flying off the shelves at all, i dont think its just "gamers" who are not buying into the "gimmick" as for motion controls it works for some games it doesnt work for others, people are smart enough to see which ones dont.


I was actually going to address that issue.  

What I was going to type was the fact that non-gamers don't even think about that stuff, so Nintendo has to actually make the game first and properly advertise it for people who game rather "casually."