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DevilRising said:
areason said:
 

The failure of 3rd party games on the wii, the sales of zelda skyward sword, and the disapointment of EA and Ubisoft regarding their games sales on the wii u all speak for themselves.


Failure of 3rd party games on Wii:

Just Dance, Guitar Hero, Rock Band, Rabbids, Lego games, Sonic games, uDraw Studio, Skylanders, Shuan White Snowboarding, several other sports titles such as Madden and Tiger Woods, etc., all did VERY well, on Wii.

Goldeneye for Wii sold over 1.7 million. At least 3 different Call of Duty games sold 1 million+. Red Steel 1 sold over a million. Red Steel 2, while not greatly promoted, sold over half a million. Epic Mickey sold close to 3 million copies. Boom Blox sold over 1 million. de Blob sold close to a million. Monster Hunter Tri sold over 2 million. Star Wars: The Force Unleashed sold close to 2 million, on a similar level to the PS3 version. Ghostbusters actually sold the best out of all versions on the Wii. RE4 and the RE Chronicles games did very well on Wii. No More Heroes 1 sold over half a million copies on Wii, and both versions sold a lot better on Wii than they did on PS3. House of the Dead: Overkill on Wii sold over 800k copies, compared to just over 200k for the "upgraded" version on PS3. Muramasa and MadWorld, both very niche titles, sold over half am million on Wii. Xenoblade Chronicles, with little to no real advertising, sold over 800k. Tatsunoko vs. Capcom, with half the game's roster based on characters largely not recognized in NA, sold half a million copies. The Last Story, also with very little in the way of real promotion, sold over half a million.

I'm not arguing that Wii couldn't/shouldn't have had a lot more third party support. BUT, to claim that third party sales were a "failure" on Wii, is kind of laughable, as there were many successes.

 

As for you mentioning the sales of Skyward Sword.....what about them? The game sold over 3.6 million copies, better than several other Zelda titles, and sales most developers NOT putting out something named CoD, Halo, Assasin's Creed, etc., would kill for. I get that you're insenuating it sold less than Twilight Princess. Well, that's not too hard to figure out. There was a ton of hype surrounding both TP as a game, and Wii as a system. Considering that it was a LAUNCH title for the Wii, and that the sales of the Wii exploded right out of the gate and didn't slow down for several years, well YEAH, Twilight Princess on Wii was bound to sell very well, which it did. And it deserved it, it's a great game (though the GC version is better). But SS sales were by no means poor, so I don't really get why you're bringing that up.

 

And lastly, of COURSE EA and Ubisoft were going to be disappointed with their Wii U title sales, given the fact that the system, while it sold really well at launch, hit the brakes around Jan. and has been crawling since. That's due in large part to NO GAMES. Perhaps more people might have cared about Madden on Wii U, if it hadn't been a gimped version without many of the features the other versions shared, because EA couldn't be bothered to spend the time to make it better? As far as attach rates go, Zombi U actually has sold decently, but again, sales for the system itself have been sluggish for months, so no shit it's not going to improve much over that span. BUT, the key difference in the reaction from EA and Ubisoft, is that Ubisoft is still putting out many of their top titles, NOT gimped versions even, on Wii U this fall, while EA cancelled whatever they may have had in the works. If you're wondering who took the proper approach, it was Ubisoft. Once Wii U sales start picking back up, because actual GAMES will be available for the system again, there is a solid chance that those Ubi titles on Wii U could eventually see solid sales.

 

So, you can say all of that shit you listed "speaks for itself". Except that at least 2/3s of what you said was either incorrect or irellevant to your point.

Yet such sales didn't improve third party support on the wii, the current third party support of the wii u speaks for itself. It is not my opinion only but also the ones of publishers like EA. 

Lol so you think skyward sword didn't flop considering it's install base?

When wii u sales pick up the sales of ubisoft games won't improve much, because people who exclusively buy mario games are not interested in assasins creed. 

I really don't need to talk, the wii had a 100 million install base, mario kart sold what 30 million, yet skyward sword coudn't pass the gamecube zelda. People who bought the wii and people who will buy the wii-u when the mario games come out do not care about 3rd party games as shown by software sales of the wii.