CrazzyMan said:
omgwtfbbq said:
CrazzyMan said:
omgwtfbbq said:
CrazzyMan said:
8 month, yeah 2,5mln. comparing to ~115 mln. ps2 sold is really a lot, lol.
http://vgchartz.com/worldcons.php?date=36770&sort=0
we speak about worldwide sales, not just japan.
it`s interesting comparison, it appears that PS3 costs twice more, then ps2.
complains about price are stupid.
dvd cost 25$ and blu-ray rom 125$, for 100$ you get:
a) moovies in Full HD 1080p.
b) you get silent console, 16x DVD is really noisy.
c) you get a lot of space, all games on 1BD - comfort.
for another 100$ you get:
a) really god quality, console may work next 5 years without problems.
b) wi-fi.
c) +40GB.
d) some amazing 3rd party exclusives and japan developers support.
e) free online |
you're the one who brought up Japan by comparing PS3's worldwide sales to PS2's japan only sales (which were about the same) and saying that the PS3 is selling as well as the PS2 did at launch, which is obviously false. I don't know why you are bringing up price or what you get out of it (or, comparing 2.5mil to 115mil, which doesn't make sense. It clearly says Japan sales were 2.5 mil which are >10% of Lifetime PS2 sales in Japan). Sometimes I think you just randomly type out sentences without even thinking You didn't actually say anything in response to the fact that the PS3 is only barely performing as well worldwide as the PS2 did in the smallest of the three big region, and in the first six months was outperformed 2.5:1 in Japan by it's predecessor. I think we can stop with the "Sony always sells slowly" myth and hopefully as well the "PS3 is tracking like the PS2" myth. |
1) ps3 didn`t start worldwide too. Only in Japan + USA. No europe and other regions.
2) yeah, probably the price has nothing to do with that... =))
like 300$ vs 600$, yeah, not big deal.
Many people complain about price, but when it comes to sales, yeah, price doesn`t matter, only sold consoles matters. |
1) really? Then what's that pile of PS3's doing at my local Myer? I guess someone transported me to USA while I wasn't looking? Oh wait, no I'm still in Australia, and last I looked, PS3's were available here. I haven't been to Europe recently but from what I heard you could buy PS3's there. Looks like PS3 has been released in all three major regions, unlike the PS2, which after 6 months was only released in Japan (but had still sold as many in a 6 month period). And since you were comparngPS2 after 6 months and PS3 after six months, then it's fair to mention that the PS2 was only available in Japan at the time. 2) Yes. Exactly. Sony priced themelves out of this generation. Price does matter and Sony will sell less consoles because they arrogantly thought people would pay any money to play the PS3. Well it's too late to go back and the PS3 is set up to fail. The PS3 will always be the most expensive console with the smallest userbase. Third party publishers don't care how much a console costs, they care how many copies of a game they are going to sell. When you are comparing the number of sold consoles, then only the number of sold consoles matter. That was the original discussion, wasn't it? You can bring in all these reasons to justify why the PS3 is selling like crap, and of course there are reasons. But you can't seem to bring yourself to actually admit that it's selling like crap. And it is. |
1) NO worldwide START. It`s only 2 month, since ps3 is selling worldwide. 4 Month was selling ONLY in japan+usa. It`s fair to mention, that ps3 for 4 month was available only in japan+usa. 2) Sony with 600$ sold more consoles, then x360 with price 400$, since 6 month after each console`s launch. Even, if after 2-3 years ps3 will still cost 350$ and x360 250$, PS3 still will be a better value for money to invest in. http://vgchartz.com/worldcons.php?date=37316&sort=0 To follow PS2 success, ps3 during this year must sell + 7 mln. ps3, and in another + 18 mln. I don`t imagine, how x360 will sell another 18 mln. in this year. Admit, that x360 is selling like a crap, and ps3 is still have chances to follow ps2 success. |
1) well then it's fair to mention that the first 6 months, the PS2 was available only in Japan.
ok, so let's be completely fair on this description then:
The PS3, which has been available for six months in USA and Japan, and only two months in Europe, has sold the same amount that the PS2 did available in six months in Japan. And the PS3 is selling at a lower rate worldwide right now than the PS2 sold at in Japan 6 months after launch.
To even think that the PS3 is doing anywhere as successful as the PS2 is ludicrous.
2) I never said that the Xbox360 had a good launch, it had a terrible launch, it is stagnating, and it is looking like it will fail. Even so, the PS3 and the 360 are even in sales after 6 months, but the PS3 is selling at a lower rate than the xox did at the same point in it's lifecycle. So if you see that graph in one month time you'll see the PS3 line dip below the 360 line. Even so, it doesn't matter, because the 360 launch was terrible. The only thing that may save the 360 was the fact that it had a year to get its act together, the PS3 had no such time and it had to get its act together QUICKLY. This is failed to do, and the simple fact is it's selling like crap (which I see you still haven't admitted, despite constantly bringing up the $600 price).
NEWS FLASH! of course the price is the problem. And it will be a problem for the entire generation. It will never cease being a problem, and Sony will never cease to have disappointing sales.
You contradict yourself so many times that it's almost impossible to argue with you. I think I'm going to leave it here. I obviously won't get you to admit that the PS3 sales are disappointing everyone (Except Nintendo and MS). I won't get you to admit that the PS3 is performing well below expectations. I won't get you to admit that it's set itself up for gamecube level sales. So you can just sit there in your blissful ignorance and pretend like hte PS3 will succeed if it makes you happy, right up until they release the PS4 (If they can afford to).
