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Max King of the Wild said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Max King of the Wild said:


I guess you weren't watching CNN where a bunch of star lawyers were talking about why a jury would generally ask for a definition so late in the deliberation process, correct? 

I never contradicted myself. This case could've gone either way, and as I have attested to, second degree murder cannot be proven with such little facts, especially with people corroborating what little facts there were. I have been a juror myself, so I am not new to the ropes. Every lawyer on the panel stated (as well as I in another post) that if the stated wanted to charge Zimmerman with manslaughter as a primary charge instead of second degree murder, they would never have had to prove intent (ie: self defense or malicious). The stated chose to demonize Zimmerman in such a struggle to get the case to even be put on. I understand Stanford is a biased area and wouldn't have even started an investigation, but the fact remains that they got cocky, just because of the media attention. It serves them right.

Now....pay attention:

Manslaughter-

"The unjustifiable, inexcusable, and intentional killing of a human being without deliberation, premeditation, and malice. The unlawful killing of a human being without any deliberation, which may be involuntary, in the commission of a lawful act without due caution and circumspection.

Manslaughter is a distinct crime and is not considered a lesser degree of murder. The essential distinction between the two offenses is that malice aforethought must be present for murder, whereas it must be absent for manslaughter. Manslaughter is not as serious a crime as murder. On the other hand, it is not a justifiable or excusable killing for which little or no punishment is imposed."

-Legal-Dictionary (From freedictionary.com)

That girl is not Trayvons girlfriend. 

Wait....leave your personal feelings for Trayvon out of this, you don't know him and neither do I. Stay objective here.

In highschool, many kids have that same record. Obama smoked weed who cares? Bush smoked weed, was a drunk and horrible driver? Did that ever stop  him from being president? Do not assume someones purpose in life...anyones. Zimmermans no angel when it comes to his record as well provoking cops into a fight in 2006, but I didn't have to talk about that. I was trying to keep this objective. I cannot stand Nancy Grace, but in her prosecutor ways she dug that up and other things on Zimmerman if you listen to multiple sources. She was riding the prosecution for doing such a horrible job.

Yes lets take legal experts word on what was going on in the jury room that they had no clue was going on... or lets listen to a juror.

An initial vote was divided. Three of the jurors first voted Zimmerman was guilty, while three voted he was not guilty, she said. Juror B37 was among those who believed he was not guilty from the start.

"There was a couple of them in there that wanted to find him guilty of something and after hours and hours and hours of deliberating over the law, and reading it over and over and over again, we decided there's just no way, other place to go," she said.

Jurors were not identified by name during the trial, which sparked a broad debate about gun laws and race in America.

The juror said she did not believe Zimmerman profiled Martin, who was African-American, because of the color of his skin.


The word of one juror is just as good as any other. The point of having many jurors creates a solid base for a proper verdict because deliberation must run its course. As I said, I would've found him not guilty of second degree murder myself. Based on the facts presented, there was no malicious intent shown. If it was a primary charge of manslaughter it would be another story. Based on a legal gameplan, if it was primary charge of manslaughter things would've been different, this is my point, think about it.... I gave you the legal definition again, read it once more. Manslaughter would've never taken this long to prove, but if found guilty Zimmerman wouldn't have stayed in jail as long as second degree murder if you can prove it. The state swung for the fences and paid for it.

In your attempt to discredit professionals who have been doing it for probably longer than we've been living in their experience, most of them were saying acquittal as well based on the facts. 

Fact:

Mark O'mara is the new Johnny Cochran. That guy is just an amazing lawyer. People are going to be studying his defense tactics for years to come, just like they did Cochran.