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enditall727 said:
Max King of the Wild said:
enditall727 said:
Kasz216 said:
Zimmerman was fit and was supposedly taking MMS classes for a few weeks before the incident 

and according to his trainer he sucked at it

 

We have 2 scenarios. Zimmerman simply grabbed Trayvon and tried to hold him until the police got there(this is what i believe happened). Or Zimmerman got hit and was just trying to get Trayvon off off of him.

 except... we would have evidence if that were the case. Bruising on the arm from the grasp or a torn hoodie from trayvon pulling away and even jeantels testimony doesn't even support this.

I dont believe he actually tried to fight Trayvon. 

 that much is obvious. Zimmerman wasnt looking to confront Trayvon or else he would have done so without calling the cops... yeah know when trayvon walked past his car... or does it make perfect sense to call the cops (like youve done multiple times) before you go to confront someone (that you havent ever done before)

I believe he grabbed Trayvon and he started punching him for him to let go but Zimmerman kept his firm grip in hopeshopes that the police would get there in time. Zimmerman was screaming for somebody to come help him hold Trayvon down because he was getting beat being that he wouldn't let go so he ultimately shot him.

 that isn't supported by any evidence.

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He never said he hit trayvon. All the evidence supported Zimmermans story. Thats why there wasnt an original arrest. Trayvon had no marks and Zimmerman had a busted nose and scuffs on his head along with other bruising that was caused by at least 8 different hits according to the defenses ME... ya know the one the prosecutions ME cited... ya know the renowned ME who has no loyalty to either side.


Its not about Zimmerman "sucking" at it. That dude was fit. I dont believe he fought Trayvon back anyways so him "sucking" doesn't have anything to do with it.

 Okay... then if he didn't fight trayvon why does it matter if he took classes?

I've grabbed and took people down PLENTY of times and i never got any bruses or ripped clothes. Evidence for "grabbing/holding" somebody? Lol

 Yes, its reasonable to expect that if a Zimmerman tried to restrain Trayvon like you said (even though he has never tried to before with anyone else and had no reason to with Trayvon) then there should be signs of a scuffly on trayvon as well. A bruise? A scratch? A torn hoodie? Anything? But there was no sign of that

And Jeantels testimony DOES support that speculation. Jeantel heard the scuffle as it broke out. She said Trayvon was running( which he shouldn't have did) and she told him to keep running because he stopped and didn't want to run anymore being that he thought he lost Zimmerman and he was close by his house. Then Trayvon says out of knowhere "oh shit! The nigga is behind me!" So Trayvon eventually says "what are you following me for" and Zimmerman responds "What are you doing around here?" Then hears a bump from the micas if another body came up against his body(like somebody grabbed him). Then she hears Trayvon constantly saying "get off! Get off!" 

Thats all good and dandy except she heard "What are you talking about" from Zimmerman... oh wait.. she changed it to the more menacing version. Also, she didn't tell the cops any of this. Also, the story doesn't make sense since according to both Zimmerman and Jeantel Trayvon lost Zimmerman and had enough time to get back to the house.

 

Some think she's lying about that part though. She was agonizingly hard to understand because she supposedly said tge phone cut off after the 1st bump. You cant really tell if she thought the phone cut off but it didn't because of the bump or if it just cut off according to her.

 

Zimmerman also had to have eventually wanted to confront him for him to call the police and to get out of his car to look for him telling the police to call him back when thet got there

 there is a complete difference between confronting and following. Zimmerman could have confronted before calling the cops. And if he wanted to confront Trayvon this would make the most sense. Have you ever noticed someone from a distance? Maybe someone you found attractive and you let it be known to your friends that you thought that person was hot? Then they said "go talk to her" How many people then chicken out? A shit load. You know why? Confronting someone is a whole nother beast.

And again, my speculatiinspeculation is supportefsupported by evidence..

no it isnt.