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McDonaldsGuy on 15 July 2013
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Mr Puggsly said:
McDonaldsGuy said:


They are not unrelated.

And no, basically, shouldn't the child go to the person who supports it? Why should a man be forced to pay for a child the courts do not allow him to see? Isn't it "his" money? I thought this was about rights and all.  If a woman can opt out of responsibility via abortion, then why can't a man opt out?

If a woman doesn't want her baby's daddy to be a dead beat dad...

DON'T HAVE SEX WITH HIM.

The part I bolded is not related. Nor are all men kept from seeing their children. That's an issue that can be taken to court if it arises.

Abortion is a solution that rids both parents of any responsibility. Outlawing forced child support only rids the father of responsibility. Your suggestion only punishes the mother for not killeing their baby. Its ridiculous.

Also, you are ignoring many men abandon their families. Believe or not, there are men who are there early on but eventually stop caring for their kids.

Abortion is not a solution for both parties because only WOMEN decide it. If the man wants to keep the kid, but the woman does not, it doesn't matter.

And yes, they are related - if a woman can opt out of taking care of a kid, then a man should as well. Women say "It's my body," then men should say "It's my money." By the way, I think men should have to take care of their kids - but that women shouldn't take abortion so lightly (I believe abortion should be legal up to 12 weeks).

It's basically saying, "My body, my rights. Everyone's responsibility." If she and the guy wants to opt out of pregnancy - do not have sex. Simple as that. She has the choice whether or not to have a kid once she has sex. Once she does have sex, she has CHOSEN the possibility of having a kid (as well as the father).

NO abortions for stupid behavior.