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endimion said:
hmm yeah well when I said essential for Kinect 2 with XB1, it was more for menu navigation.... from what I have seen joypad navigation will be vastly less practical than using Kinect.... just the switch between apps or the snapping look like it will be completely impractical with the pad....

but yeah apparently more and more 3rd party dev seem to be interested in Kinect possibilities and look like they are willing to integrate some Kinect features in their game....

but beside games I think a kinectless SKU will not happen this gen.... dashboard navigation looks clearly Kinect oriented and if it's like the current Kinect in better... it will be definitely faster and more practical for that than the pad.... that's already what I use Kinect for today, because it is more convenient and usually faster to navigate the dashboard with it than the pad....

From my perpective, I believe voice nav will be way more important for navigation with the X1 then hands free.  I can easily see people walk into their living room and say Xbox Play "******".  From games you have download, to apps you have on the console to movies where it just finds it within a app without you hunting for it, to music you have either downloaded on your X1 or using xbox music, to search internet links and bringing up that page or your Facebook or social media link ext.  

I believe Voice nav is what MS is really putting a lot of juice into and this could very well be a difference maker as the X1 matures.  Its definitely a reason I see MS building the archtexture for the X1 they way that they did.