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Hynad on 12 July 2013
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JakDaSnack said:
Hynad said:
JakDaSnack said:

I said games get lower because they simply aren't as good games.  Up until your last post, you failed to acknowledge that both galaxy games are scored higher on gamerankings, nor did you acknowledge that I averaged them both to determine that galaxy 1 is the highest ranked game of this gen.  You claimed that mario galaxy has the same story, which is correct, but you fail to understand that It's gameplay overcomes it's lack of story, just like how TLOU's story overcomes it's lack of interesting gameplay.  You are correct that Quarter to 3 generally scores the opposite  direction, but you failed to acknowledge that even without that score TLOU would still be ranked lower than both mario galaxy games.  That's where you go wrong, you lost the argument, and if calling you a fanboy when you clearly are acting like one isn't tolerated, then so be it.  You have clearly lost this argument, 

What lack of interesting gameplay in TLoU, exactly? Those arguments are so moronic. -__-

Ok, I feel like we are just heading down a downward spiral, I am sorry for my comments about calling you a fanboy and everything else that I said that might have offended you.

When it comes to gameplay, the game has to feel fresh and new for it to get a 10 in terms of gameplay.  With the last of us, every puzzle involves a conveniently located plank, ladder or raft, that you use to get over an obstacle.  It almost feels like it was completely pointless to put those puzzles in at all.   The combat itself is near identicle to uncharted, and what makes it worse is that because of how frequent the checkpoints are saved, if you die you basically don't lose any progress at all.  Now, the AI is pretty bad, you can assasinate people by approaching them diagnoly rather than directly behind them.  Also, if you get in view of an enemy human and then quickly get out of site, he won't notice you.  And don't even get me started about Ellie.....anyways, the point is that while the gameplay is pretty good, they took some stuff from ZombiU that I really enjoyed, nothing is original, and there were a lot of bugs that should have been fixed.  But the issue with docking points for mario not having a story, is like saying that Chess should lose points because their is no story in the board game Chess......it's not a good argument, games don't HAVE to have stories, they HAVE to be fun, and while games don't need good stories to be fun, they do need good gameplay to be fun otherwise you might as well read a book or watch a movie. 


Yeah, I get it. But to say that one game relies on good gameplay, while the others doesn't it just wrong. Good gameplay is subjective. My platformer of the gen is Super Mario Galaxy. No contest there. But I enjoyed the gameplay in TLoU more because to me, it was more immersive and more my type of games. Yes, the atmosphere and story play a huge role in my appreciation of it. But the gameplay compliments the story very well, unlike any other games so far in my book. Both games have stellar gameplay. None of them reinvents the wheel, but the experience for both is polished to new heights, and I'm more than fine with that.